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      05-03-2020, 08:05 AM   #1
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UK, Belgium and US F1 Drivers....

Tell us about your most favorite and least favorite F1 drivers and any one season hopefuls that didn't make it in F1.
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US drivers Mario Andretti and Phil Hill both won F1 world driving championships. I saw Mario race at the inaugural Indy car race at Ontario Motor Speedway in 1970 east of Los Angeles. The track was a replica of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway's 2.5 mile oval.
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C...w=1433&bih=717

Additionally, I saw Mario race USAC midgets (they look like miniature sprint cars) at Ascot Park 1/2 mile clay oval that was located south of the LA International airport.
https://www.pinterest.com/idontownacomput/usac-midgets/

My favorite US driver was Dan Gurney. I saw him race at multiple locations in southern California. My favorite Dan Gurney memory was his F1 win at Spa....

On June 18, 1967, Gurney took a historic victory in the Belgian Grand Prix. Starting in the middle of the first row, Gurney initially followed Jim Clark's Lotus and the BRM of Jackie Stewart. A muffed start left Gurney deep in the field at the end of the first lap. Throughout the race, Gurney's Weslake V-12 suffered a high-speed misfire, but he was able to continue racing. Jim Clark encountered problems on Lap 12 that dropped him down to ninth position. Having moved up to second spot, Gurney set the fastest lap of the race on Lap 19. Two laps later he and his Eagle took the lead and came home over a minute ahead of Stewart.
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"Jacky Ickx" , the legendary Belgian race driver

Too much victories to write about => https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacky_Ickx

Nicknamed "Mr. Le Mans" on account of his victories at the prestigious competition. He excelled for 30 years in the world of motor racing.

Born on 1 January 1945, the young Jacky came a long way, having dreamed of becoming a gardener despite the fact his father was a car journalist and part-time racing driver, and his younger brother was a pilot. And then, one day, he hopped on a motorbike... and zap, he was hooked by the thrill of speed! That's where it all started!

Jacky Ickx started competing in 1963, and took part in the Motoring Tour de France. He was only 18 at the time. 1969 was a turning point in the Belgian's career. On 15 June, the 24-year-old driver became a legend by winning the 37th edition of the Le Mans 24 Hour race. He started his race by walking to his car, while all the other drivers rushed to theirs. He put on his safety harness and set off. A life-saving act, as during this race, 37-year-old English driver John Woolfe lost control of his car at more than 220km/h and was fatally thrown from his car. However, the race continued and was Jacky Ickx's first major victory. His actions made history, since in 1970 the drivers started the competition without running to their cars.

Jacky Ickx also made an impact in Formula 1, becoming two-time vice world champion in 1969 and 1970. He won eight Grand Prix between 1968 and 1972, in France, Germany, Canada, Mexico, Austria and the Netherlands among others.

Double world champion in endurance racing with Porsche in 1982 and 1983, Jacky Ickx also holds the record for the number of victories in long-distance events, with more than fifty to his name. From the mid-1980s, he started to take part in off-road competitions. In 1983, he won the Paris-Dakar edition alongside French actor Claude Brasseur .

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OMG!!!!
Great recount of Ickx.

But the video of RB F1 cars on city streets, flower factories and the beach is simply incredible!!!!
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I keep reading up on the 1961 Italian GP where American Phil Hill won in a Ferrari shark nose.
Out of the five Ferrari's entered Hill's won and the other four fell out with of course von Trips' horrendous accident tripping up against Clark and launching the car into the crowd killing himself and 16 spectators.
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OMG!!!!
Great recount of Ickx.

But the video of RB F1 cars on city streets, flower factories and the beach is simply incredible!!!!
Indeed my friend . As we know today It's May 3 ...Normally today it was F1 at Zandvoort
But cancelled by the damn virus ! Looks not good for the rest of the 2020 F1 season .
Very little chance that we will see F1 races this year
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I keep reading up on the 1961 Italian GP where American Phil Hill won in a Ferrari shark nose.
Out of the five Ferrari's entered Hill's won and the other four fell out with of course von Trips' horrendous accident tripping up against Clark and launching the car into the crowd killing himself and 16 spectators.
That crash looks horrible ! "RIP"

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Just couldn't resist putting this on from the film.To me one of the nicest classic F1 cars,a 312 I think with that sperexed white exhaust a work of art matching the red bodywork. Bellisimo!
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Absolutely and completely mate . Thank you !
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I keep reading up on the 1961 Italian GP where American Phil Hill won in a Ferrari shark nose.
Out of the five Ferrari's entered Hill's won and the other four fell out with of course von Trips' horrendous accident tripping up against Clark and launching the car into the crowd killing himself and 16 spectators.
Motorsport can be so intoxicating when driver and machine are one with each other and on the limit....and motorsport can be so very horrible....

There are very few sporting events where it can go so terribly wrong for the driver....and others.
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Just couldn't resist putting this on from the film.To me one of the nicest classic F1 cars,a 312 I think with that sperexed white exhaust a work of art matching the red bodywork. Bellisimo!
Now that is pure mechanical sex.
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Motorsport can be so intoxicating when driver and machine are one with each other and on the limit....and motorsport can be so very horrible....

There are very few sporting events where it can go so terribly wrong for the driver....and others.
The raised banking in that spot at Monza in '61 was completely wrong with the spectators on top making the race organisers believe it was safe for some reason.
They had no idea that it could launch an out of control car like an aircraft and what made it worse was the wreck was spinning like a pendulum going through the air through the crowd compounding the injuries on casualties and with what I can see von Trips' body thrown out the car onto the track with cars bearing down... truly a nightmarish scene.
It is not dissimilar to the '55 Le Mans horror when an out of control Jaguar was also spinning through spectators after losing control.
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Now that is pure mechanical sex.
My friend I am transfixed with that start scene in the film, the shouting, the delayed starting of engine and the final getaway.,V12 whooooom.You know,just before Sarti crashes...I go back to that start scene!
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The raised banking in that spot at Monza in '61 was completely wrong with the spectators on top making the race organisers believe it was safe for some reason.
They had no idea that it could launch an out of control car like an aircraft and what made it worse was the wreck was spinning like a pendulum going through the air through the crowd compounding the injuries on casualties and with what I can see von Trips' body thrown out the car onto the track with cars bearing down... truly a nightmarish scene.
It is not dissimilar to the '55 Le Mans horror when an out of control Jaguar was also spinning through spectators after losing control.
Yeah my friend . I watched on YouTube a video . It shows the dead spectators..and Von Trips dead body .
Back in time , these race cars caught also very often fire .
It was horrible . A disaster ...

No wonder that Jacky Ickx said : "It's a miracle I'm still alive"
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Yeah my friend . I watched on YouTube a video . It shows the dead spectators..and Von Trips dead body .
Back in time , these race cars caught also very often fire .
It was horrible . A disaster ...

No wonder that Jacky Ickx said : "It's a miracle I'm still alive"
Don't know if you saw the Grand Prix film but Frankenheimer got Sarti's lead up to the fatal crash completely wrong.
All GP drivers are quick thinking and he would have seen that exhaust pipe coming off the car looking at it right in front of him! on the banking and 2-3 seconds sliding on the track before contact with the Ferrari is optimum time to avoid the errant pipe .
If Max was in the Ferrari he would have side stepped it easily.
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My friend I am transfixed with that start scene in the film, the shouting, the delayed starting of engine and the final getaway.,V12 whooooom.You know,just before Sarti crashes...I go back to that start scene!
My UKM5 and MBelgium friends -
Grand Prix the movie by John Frankenheimer was simply spectacular (and still is)....I saw it as an 11 yr old racing fan at the ultimate movie house....Cinerama; this was a HUGE screen that was curved and my understanding is that there were three projectors that were required on the curved screen; this movie was epic and (as we can see by the interest today!) is still epic.

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Don't know if you saw the Grand Prix film but Frankenheimer got Sarti's lead up to the fatal crash completely wrong.
All GP drivers are quick thinking and he would have seen that exhaust pipe coming off the car looking at it right in front of him! on the banking and 2-3 seconds sliding on the track before contact with the Ferrari is optimum time to avoid the errant pipe .
If Max was in the Ferrari he would have side stepped it easily.
My UKM5 and MBelgium friends -
Agreed!
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My friend I am transfixed with that start scene in the film, the shouting, the delayed starting of engine and the final getaway.,V12 whooooom.You know,just before Sarti crashes...I go back to that start scene!
My friend!
I found it!!!!
Go go 2:32:50

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[QUOTE=racerbruce;26130142]My friend!
I found it!!!!
Go go 2:32:50

I'll tell you about another film error a sharp eyed fan would spot on the Monza start scene you timed well..the fuel pressure gauge (Benzina) is still on zero as Sarti eventually fires it up
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