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      09-26-2020, 11:56 AM   #45
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No - I have 5 manuals here in the US and 2 off-shore.
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      09-26-2020, 01:55 PM   #47
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Eighteen months ago I bought my first automatic in 33 years and while they are much better than they used to be, I still miss my manual. A lot.
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      09-26-2020, 11:23 PM   #48
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I'm in my late 20s and have only driven auto cars, thankfully most have allowed me to row through my own gears.

However I'm really consider a stick shift for my next car. With the rise of EVs I fear manual transmissions will go extinct within the next 10-15 years save for a handful of niche cars. The M2 is the car I'm heavily leaning toward; but the Giulia and Supra are on the table too, however neither of those two even offer a stick.
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      09-26-2020, 11:34 PM   #49
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I will garage my 328i stick for a month, then take it out for a couple of weeks. It's not only fun but I think it makes you a better driver - you are engaged, active. When I'm driving the 540i M, I'm fumbling with Car Play, looking at navigation. I do that a lot less in the manny.
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      09-27-2020, 12:28 AM   #50
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F80 manual and s2000 manual here
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      09-28-2020, 09:29 AM   #51
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What about drum brakes and non power steering. Does anyone miss that also?
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      09-28-2020, 09:57 AM   #52
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I do wish Manuals were as prevalent here than they are in Europe... people might actually pay attention and have an idea of how to drive. I will always own a manual car.
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      09-28-2020, 10:20 AM   #53
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I do wish Manuals were as prevalent here than they are in Europe... people might actually pay attention and have an idea of how to drive. I will always own a manual car.
In Iowa, everyone knows how to drive a tractor, so they are set for manuals?

I try to teach any of my nieces/nephews who want to learn, just in case they are out and have to drive a manual home some day.
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      09-28-2020, 10:56 AM   #54
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I cant miss it. 80% of my fleet is MT!
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      09-28-2020, 01:25 PM   #55
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Nope. Personally I care more about the quality of the transmission over the actual type. I would rather have a good Auto or DCT over a mediocre manual transmission or vice versa. I seem to alternate from manual to DCT to manual to now ZF8. Automatics have come a long way in the last decade while manual transmissions largely haven't improved as you get some great ones from Porsche, good ones from BMW, Honda, and mediocre ones from VW, Subaru, Nissan and terrible ones from Hyundai and Ford (as a former owner I can say the MT82 is trash). The whole manual vs automatic debate is kind of childish IMO like Apple vs Google, etc as people get what they like and there's no wrong answer. For me I don't mind rowing my own gears but it gets tiresome at times in the city and I really don't miss it but transmission type to me has no bearing on a vehicle purchase as long as it's a good transmission and I'm smitten with the car.
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Yes I missed it very much so I sold my E92 M3 DCT and bought my M4 manual!

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Love my m340i, it's perfect but lately I have been missing shifting and even a little nostalgic for my previous car a 2018 Sti. Yeah the STI was a nightmare when it came to reliability especially tuned but it was pretty raw driving experience wise, but it was way slower than my m340 even with an e85 tune. Yet I'm still kinda browsing around and looking at 2020's, talk me out of my madness. Also to add to the situation I got a ridiculous deal on my m340 and I can basically get more for it now than I paid for it, so yeah.
Negative on this. My preference is manual and while I can handle a dct and palls too, I won't be missing a manual, I'll just keep owning them.

Automatics are the future, relics just going to need to be relics for long enough to be cool again. The dinosaurs did that, I'm going their way.
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      09-28-2020, 02:59 PM   #58
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      09-28-2020, 03:48 PM   #59
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The fun cars I have owned since 2013 have been manual 6 speed MTs. Don't care if they are a bit slower in a straight line, a well executed heal-and-toe downshift is SOOOO much more rewarding than pulling a lever. #manual4life
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      09-28-2020, 03:57 PM   #60
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I cant miss it. 80% of my fleet is MT!
If Im doing my math correctly, you have a fifth car and the ones pictured are all manual
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      09-28-2020, 04:23 PM   #61
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manual f80 here. sold my automatic Ferrari a couple months ago to swap it for a manual GT3.

I'll still keep an automatic car for work/beater duty though.
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Can I contact admin??
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      09-28-2020, 06:18 PM   #64
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I cant miss it. 80% of my fleet is MT!
If I’m doing my math correctly, you have a fifth car and the ones pictured are all manual
you are correct sir! I have a Toyota Sienna for hauling the kids! I even think the 2GR V6 in it would be well serves by a manual, but no one would buy that!
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Nope. Personally I care more about the quality of the transmission over the actual type. I would rather have a good Auto or DCT over a mediocre manual transmission or vice versa. I seem to alternate from manual to DCT to manual to now ZF8. Automatics have come a long way in the last decade while manual transmissions largely haven't improved as you get some great ones from Porsche, good ones from BMW, Honda, and mediocre ones from VW, Subaru, Nissan and terrible ones from Hyundai and Ford (as a former owner I can say the MT82 is trash). The whole manual vs automatic debate is kind of childish IMO like Apple vs Google, etc as people get what they like and there's no wrong answer. For me I don't mind rowing my own gears but it gets tiresome at times in the city and I really don't miss it but transmission type to me has no bearing on a vehicle purchase as long as it's a good transmission and I'm smitten with the car.
Agree with this. My current car is best as a manual. If they made a really good DCT for it, then that might be the ticket, but they don't. The car is a driver's car in every way, built for a specific purpose. If I got a 911 or Cayman, I'd get it with a PDK, because IMO, and from what I've observed watching them race in person, that is the transmission that fits the car. Going fast and having fun is so much more than switching gears, although that can be part of it. Using your cars torque curve, limits of traction, weight biases, etc., there's so much more that goes into it than just the transmission.

For some cars, they don't make a good enough auto or the car just isn't intended to be weighed down with a heavier auto trans. For others, the purpose of the car is max performance and the variation of auto is orientated towards that. I'm not talking about an insulating GT car that most people drive, but a hard-edged driver's car. That hard edge is a hell of a lot more than just the transmission, it's the entire car, not predicated on the type of transmission.

The "connection with the car" is important, but just as I said above, it's more than the transmission. Everyone buying an auto for their wife or kid is just as guilty of making the manual go away, not to mention the ones buying SUVs and killing off cars in general.
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this debate crops up so often, but I often close these threads down with this simple reality:

no one ever goes from pdk/dct to manual and then back to pdk/dct because they miss it

but LOTS of people go from manual to pdk/dct then back to manual because they miss it

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