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      07-16-2017, 09:22 PM   #23
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What weight are they fighting at? How far before the fight is weigh-in? I'm not up to speed on my boxing rules.

Conor is a monster who can cut down to 140. His walk around weight is closer to 175 I believe. The guy is going to have a serious size (and punching power) advantage.
It'll be at 154lb, the normal weight that Mayweathet normally fights at.

Again it's all about the hype. In a boxing match, Connor has zero chance but put mayweathet in an octagon and things will be different...
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It'll be at 154lb, the normal weight that Mayweathet normally fights at.

Again it's all about the hype. In a boxing match, Connor has zero chance but put mayweathet in an octagon and things will be different...
So Mac's only got to cut to 154 24 hours before the fight. He'll be back up to 165ish by the fight. He looks scary thin at 145 weigh ins. At east at 154 he will have the same strength and stamina that he had when facing Diaz. I agree with you though, he has little chance against a pro that's gone 49 straight fights without a loss. You don't do that by being naive. Mayweatehr is a crafty dude and I just dont believe that he's never faced anyone in 49 fights with the punching power of Conor.

Yeah, put those two in an Octagon with MMA rules and Mayweather is choked out in under a minute.
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I don't see how people think McGregor has a chance
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But both those guys loss before
Mayweather probably would have too had he not ducked pacman for five years
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      07-17-2017, 09:11 AM   #27
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But both those guys loss before
Yes but back in the day we had a number of good middleweight level fighters and yes they beat up on each other.. doesnt take away from their skill its about the competition they faced
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I don't see how people think McGregor has a chance
He'd have no chance w/ Mayweather in his prime
He has a chance assuming he plays his cards right
but still not a very high one
but we know Connor is a gambler.. w/ some skills
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It'll be at 154lb, the normal weight that Mayweathet normally fights at.

Again it's all about the hype. In a boxing match, Connor has zero chance but put mayweathet in an octagon and things will be different...
BS , Conor is the beast , and Floyd is the old dude !

The weight ? Here you go...
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      07-17-2017, 06:36 PM   #30
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BS , Conor is the beast , and Floyd is the old dude !

The weight ? Here you go...
Care to put a wager on it ? Lol
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This fight is gonna be boring AF. Like most mayweather (use your own term) fights he's gonna dance and tap to a victory. There will be no big knockout from loudmouth mcgregor. Power belgium or whatever must not have watched many boxing matches.
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Care to put a wager on it ? Lol
Check my post # 20 => http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1403689
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This fight is gonna be boring AF. Like most mayweather (use your own term) fights he's gonna dance and tap to a victory. There will be no big knockout from loudmouth mcgregor. Power belgium or whatever must not have watched many boxing matches.
My friend I've followed both over the years .
But this fight will be different for Floyd !
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Hope you're ok with losing your 1K
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I don't see how people think McGregor has a chance
People never thought James "Buster" Douglas had a chance either.
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People never thought James "Buster" Douglas had a chance either.
At least he was a professional boxer and Tyson stamina never really been tested. Weather you like him or not we are talking the greatest defensive boxer ever against a guy who has not boxed professionally in his life.
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Hope you're ok with losing your 1K
For the moment I see it like a 50/50 chance .
On the other hand I can make it from 1K => 2K

I bet never , but this fight is really interesting for me and the rest of the world .
Losing 1K ? I would not feel it...
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With only 1K are you serious ? The Belgian insane taxes that's kinda ballin for our government !
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Floyd is 40 years old, hasn't fought for a long wile, has past his prime, hasn't knocked out anyone since 1999(Ortiz doesn't count, it was a soccer punch), smaller than Connor.
On the other hand, he has outstanding defense, outstanding counterattack reflexes, doesn't get tired as he knows how to conserve his energy for 12 rounds.
12 Rounds, that's what he does in most of his fights, so he has a huge advantage in running for full 12 rounds without getting tired.
Now, Connor is much younger, bigger, stronger, much hungrier fighter than Floyd.
Very confident, really thinks he can take Floyd out inside 4 rounds.
He has predicted things many times before and backed it up.
IMO, he is a very underrated boxer, if you watch his mma fights, he prefers stand up. trading punches on the feet.
Remember 1st round one punch KO of Aldo that he predicted? It was a brilliant execution of his game plan against the best pound for pound mma fighter at that time.
They will fight at 154 pounds. Connor will show up for the fight(not weigh-in) at 175 pounds at least. Floyd has never been more than 157 in his life.
that's almost 20 pounds difference.
I wish they were fighting with 4 ounce gloves, which would give Connor more of a chance to hurt Floyd if he landed a clean punch.
I disagree with those who say Connor has no chance. He does, but I wouldn't bet on it Belgium
Did anyone think that Manny pacman would lose to a school teacher?
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Question for you guys who know more than I do about the sports of boxing and MMA. Both sides are petitioning the NV athletic commission to allow them to fight in 8 ounce gloves instead of 10 ounce, which is standard for that weight class. MMA on the other hand uses 4 ounce gloves.

How is dropping from 10 to 8 seen as better or worse?

Stands to reason that with a heavier glove your punches will be slower and you will tire faster, but when you connect they will carry a larger impact.

How will stepping down from 10 to 8 help/hurt Floyd?

How will stepping up to 8 or 10 from 4 help/hurt Conor?
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Question for you guys who know more than I do about the sports of boxing and MMA. Both sides are petitioning the NV athletic commission to allow them to fight in 8 ounce gloves instead of 10 ounce, which is standard for that weight class. MMA on the other hand uses 4 ounce gloves.

How is dropping from 10 to 8 seen as better or worse?

Stands to reason that with a heavier glove your punches will be slower and you will tire faster, but when you connect they will carry a larger impact.

How will stepping down from 10 to 8 help/hurt Floyd?

How will stepping up to 8 or 10 from 4 help/hurt Conor?
The lighter gloves as you stated make the punches get thrown faster (less mass to accelerate), and they also help your endurance a bit since you aren't carrying around and moving more mass for up to 12 rounds. The smaller gloves also have a smaller surface area and smaller padding. So its actually easier to sneak a punch in with smaller gloves, and when it does hit it actually translates to a HARDER impact, not less as you say above. That is because the inertia and corresponding force of the hand/glove upon impact is spread over a shorter period of time with less padding. The same concept behind a crumple zone in a car. You are spreading the impact over a larger amount of time to soften the overall force that your body experiences.

Its all physics and kinematics.

On side note: The smaller/lighter the gloves the more force will be translated into the boxers hands as well. So wearing no gloves or ones with little padding is dangerous on both sides of the coin. Easy to hurt your opponent and easy to hurt your first/wrist as well.

EDIT: I generally agree with what most have stated above. As much as I would LOVE for Mayweather to get KTFO I'm skepcial to say the least. Conor is a beast in terms of overall size and strength, but never underestimate experience... and Floyd has a lot of it. I think Floyd will try to do what he always does use his defense and smarts as much as possible. He will try to wear Conor out and start looking for some counters later or win on points... Conor will try the opposite likely and will definitely be hungry for some big shots.

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PACMAN fan here so I have an intrinsic hate for Floyd, but there is ZERO chance he will lose this fight.

Even the last "improved" sparring video that was posted here is a joke. If he boxes like that with Floyd he will get murdered. Can you say SLOW? Conor is going to have to smother Floyd and get in close, no chance he can box outside with Floyd. That has been the game plan for pretty much every boxer that has faced Floyd to date and ZERO PROFESSIONAL boxers have succeeded.
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