Evo magazine tests i8 vs 911 GTS

AndyDubbya · 03-23-2015, 09:08 AM

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I won't spoil it for you, but it's a very interesting video.

Epirali · 03-23-2015, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by AndyDubbya

I won't spoil it for you, but it's a very interesting video.

Very interesting, thank you.

I wonder how much better tires would make a difference, or is the car pretty much near its handling limit anyway.

Also I am continuously puzzled by the different 0-60 times various tests achieve. I've seen listed 4.4, but instrumented tests at 3.8 and 3.6. I know it's been discussed before but still curious.

JasH · 03-23-2015, 10:05 AM

Thanks, and interesting test, that only proves what is already well known. The i8 is not a track car in any way whatsoever. The 911 would always walk a track challenge vs the i8.

Pleasantly surprised to see how much fun it was on track though, and THAT slide

And yes, wider grippier tyres would improve its time a lot, albeit the 911 would still win.

YungDro · 03-23-2015, 02:06 PM

Cant wait for the faster i8S

ticamihai2003 · 03-23-2015, 06:23 PM

Wonder what 50hp extra for The i8 would have been like. No one tunes the i8 yet?

YungDro · 03-23-2015, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ticamihai2003

Wonder what 50hp extra for The i8 would have been like. No one tunes the i8 yet?

manhart have but dont think others have

bmellion · 03-23-2015, 06:46 PM

Stupid comparison. Give me the GTS all day long...

Diver · 03-23-2015, 06:50 PM

On the track the i8 can't capture braking energy fast enough to recharge its battery, so after a lap or two it is gas engine only. Perhaps a super capacitor would help. This test was a single hot lap, on a second lap the difference would be dramatic.

Desert_Fox · 03-23-2015, 06:51 PM

Even as a BMW forum, I think a large majority here would take the 911 and never look back.

Mr.SugarSkulls · 03-23-2015, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Desert_Fox

Even as a BMW forum, I think a large majority here would take the 911 and never look back.

+1

chris s · 03-23-2015, 07:06 PM

What a ridic comparison. I'd take the Gts regardless of the outcome honestly. Nothing about the i8 is appealing to me...

SunnyD · 03-23-2015, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Desert_Fox

Even as a BMW forum, I think a large majority here would take the 911 and never look back.

For a track/road course car...then yes. But as a pure street car, I'd take the i8 on looks/technology over any 911.

dmz · 03-23-2015, 07:20 PM

Nothing new on this comparo. Same old story about the i8. Great chasis, underpowered and complex drivetrain and skinny tires which are better for MPG than Lateral Gs. I still have hope for an i8M.

Sedan_Clan · 03-23-2015, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Desert_Fox

Even as a BMW forum, I think a large majority here would take the 911 and never look back.

A 911 GT3 is my dream car. I want!!!

qbix · 03-23-2015, 09:34 PM

Waiting for i8 vs Speciale comparo next.
But seriously why don't they check how it compares to Prius on a track? I mean take it from the third lap not the first one...

Needbmwpartzz · 03-23-2015, 10:04 PM

Just looking at the cars standing still the tires on the i8 look anemic compared to Porsche and that's how I knew this was no real competition lol

Powerslide · 03-23-2015, 10:08 PM

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What a ridic comparison. I'd take the Gts regardless of the outcome honestly. Nothing about the i8 is appealing to me...

This seriously is the dumbest comparison - the i8 is not a dedicated sportscar - the claimed justification for comparing them is so baseless - price??!!?? The dollars spent on the i8 are not for performance... Why not do a track battle between a fully loaded 750i and a 911 4S spec'd out so that they are the same MSRP- and then conclude (not so surprisingly) that the 911 4S is the better track car (no $hit....)...

I do believe the i8 represents the future - but BMW did not optimize it for the track. Now a future BMW M car with i8 advanced hybrid technology will absolutely move the bar forward (look at the 918, McLaren P1, LaFerrari)....

omegaSMP300 · 03-23-2015, 11:51 PM

Thanks for sharing. Great vid.

qbix · 03-23-2015, 11:55 PM

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Just looking at the cars standing still the tires on the i8 look anemic compared to Porsche and that's how I knew this was no real competition lol

Sure, the problem with i8 is the tires. Put wide slicks and I am sure it will beat 911. Including GT3.

raysspl · 03-24-2015, 12:17 AM

You all do have to admit the i8 does look good in black!

Epirali · 03-24-2015, 12:56 AM

Honestly I am one of the people who has ZERO interest in the 911. Actually I am not a particular fan of BMW either. But the i8 has immediately made me an owner and fan of BMW.

Point is I think this car is aimed at a slightly different crowd than 911 or M fans. The comparison I took more to point out that the i8 is stronger than it has any right to be, not that it is a true competitor to 911 in any real sense. It is not meant to be.

rallybull · 03-24-2015, 02:09 AM

wonder how the i8 will fare against the Merc G550. Both have similar HP and price range.

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JasH Lieutenant Colonel 621 Rep 1,646 Posts Drives: McLaren & Ferrari & i8 & i3 Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Kent, UK iTrader: (0)	Thanks, and interesting test, that only proves what is already well known. The i8 is not a track car in any way whatsoever. The 911 would always walk a track challenge vs the i8. Pleasantly surprised to see how much fun it was on track though, and THAT slide And yes, wider grippier tyres would improve its time a lot, albeit the 911 would still win.
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dmz Captain 37 Rep 645 Posts Drives: me nuts Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: CA iTrader: (2)	Nothing new on this comparo. Same old story about the i8. Great chasis, underpowered and complex drivetrain and skinny tires which are better for MPG than Lateral Gs. I still have hope for an i8M.
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