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      01-12-2016, 10:54 AM   #177
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I call dibs. What if you take payments and die part way thru?
The trust is guaranteed to collect all of it. Up to you who gets what if you croak beforehand.
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      01-12-2016, 10:55 AM   #178
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So then goal is to spend it as fast as you can, got it.
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      01-12-2016, 10:56 AM   #179
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^They are banking on that, then it stays right where it is. I don't think you can put it into your estate.
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      01-12-2016, 11:13 AM   #180
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I just drove by a gas station in the Bronx with at least 100 people waiting on line to play, good thing it's only 35 degrees out n snowing...maybe I can sell 1 of them my ticket for $100
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I just drove by a gas station in the Bronx with at least 100 people waiting on line to play, good thing it's only 35 degrees out n snowing...maybe I can sell 1 of them my ticket for $100
That's sad actually. Got a shiny nickel that says if anyone of those people standing in a line during business hours the day before will be dead or broke within one year if they won.

Does that ^ need commas...
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      01-12-2016, 12:58 PM   #182
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So at what point is the winner guaranteed a billion after taxes? I could do the math, but I burned out my calculator on the Starbucks problem.
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      01-12-2016, 01:20 PM   #183
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So at what point is the winner guaranteed a billion after taxes? I could do the math, but I burned out my calculator on the Starbucks problem.
Probably a little less than double where it is now. I saw on CNN that the $1.5B works out to around $900M lump sum. $900M less 40% tax = $540M. Less if winner is in a state with state income taxes. So winner probably ends up with ballpark of +/- 1/3 of "headline" prize after lump sum discount and taxes. I think.
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After fed 25%.
Here nets 1.225b ap 697,500m cv
Then each years income tax, gift tax etc.

The Dallas Morning News had an article from Mark Cuban.
His words:

Take the annual payment option.
Learn to use the word NO really fast.
If you're not happy now you won't be if you win.
If you're happy now you should be really happy if you win.
Don't be an ahole bnaire or mnaire.
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      01-12-2016, 03:31 PM   #185
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I just got 292 million tickets so, winning
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      01-12-2016, 03:37 PM   #186
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I just got 292 million tickets so, winning
Think you'll pretty much break even.
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      01-12-2016, 03:38 PM   #187
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Think you'll pretty much break even.
Good I only bought 150 million
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      01-12-2016, 06:11 PM   #188
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I just got 292 million tickets so, winning
Unfortunately, unless you can ensure you would not have any repeated combinations, you would only have about a 63% chance of winning ...

1 - [(292,201,337/292,201,338)^292,201,338]
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      01-13-2016, 09:16 AM   #189
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Way to blow my morning
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      01-13-2016, 02:16 PM   #190
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Any idea how many tickets get sold, how much govt makes vs winner
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      01-13-2016, 02:24 PM   #191
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Any idea how many tickets get sold, how much govt makes vs winner
Government takes 40%
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      01-13-2016, 02:39 PM   #192
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But probably sell 4 billion in tickets and pay out 1.5, then take taxes and lump sum fee and, and, and
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and yearly income taxes, don't be forgetting that.
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      01-13-2016, 02:46 PM   #194
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Does it count as income if I spend it before I have it?
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      01-13-2016, 02:48 PM   #195
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Nope, but you probably can't write off that debt either. Biorin ?
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      01-13-2016, 02:51 PM   #196
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Nope, but you probably can't write off that debt either. Biorin ?
Unfortunately, I have yet to come across the IRS allowing the "I'm a fucking idiot" deduction. I'll keep you guys posted with any legislative updates.
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http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...ations/423930/
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Unfortunately, I have yet to come across the IRS allowing the "I'm a fucking idiot" deduction. I'll keep you guys posted with any legislative updates.
That would help a lot of people out if they did.
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