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      10-14-2019, 05:48 PM   #1
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Your daily Govt BS - Arrest 12yo child for finger guns.

Here ya go, Bimmerposters!

Another one for the fun files of government run amok. This time, someone thought it smart to arrest, handcuff, and book at the local juvenile jail, a 12 year old girl who pretended to make a gun with her fingers.

What. The. Hell.

A 12-year-old girl who attends a middle school in Kansas City made her fingers into the shape of a gun and pointed at several of her classmates. These kids had bullied her relentlessly.

Here's how the authorities at Westridge Middle School handled the incident: School Resource Officer Dana Harrison, the school's police officer, arrested the girl and escorted her off the premises in handcuffs. She was taken to a juvenile detention facility, and will face a felony charge of threatening to commit violence.

She could be sentenced to a year in juvenile detention.

Stop it, government! Just stop it!



https://www.kansascity.com/news/loca...236030548.html

https://reason.com/2019/10/14/finger...tridge-middle/
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Agreed, the governments everywhere needs to put their efforts into anti bullying efforts so they'll catch the bad guys and help them to be reformed.
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Agreed, the governments everywhere needs to put their efforts into anti bullying efforts so they'll catch the bad guys and help them to be reformed.
This - although this can also go too far. The other day, here in my 'somewhat sane' state, a child was arrested at a middle school (kid was 13yo) for picking on a kid and teasing him insistently.

This isn't the best solution. Is all bullying wrong? Yes - but different punishments fit different scenarios. I don't think a kid should be put in handcuffs for verbal bullying. He should be punished, but I don't think he should be directed into the criminal justice system.

Now - for those bullies that actually beat up kids? Yes, those should probably be arrested - although, even in those cases, I might be okay with it being an escalated punishment, not for a first offense - depending on the severity.
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This - although this can also go too far. The other day, here in my 'somewhat sane' state, a child was arrested at a middle school (kid was 13yo) for picking on a kid and teasing him insistently.

This isn't the best solution. Is all bullying wrong? Yes - but different punishments fit different scenarios. I don't think a kid should be put in handcuffs for verbal bullying. He should be punished, but I don't think he should be directed into the criminal justice system.

Now - for those bullies that actually beat up kids? Yes, those should probably be arrested - although, even in those cases, I might be okay with it being an escalated punishment, not for a first offense - depending on the severity.
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I would sue the school and personally sue the individuals that took part in it. Take that to the bank. To win it only takes a majority of jurors. Why would you not sue????
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This - although this can also go too far. The other day, here in my 'somewhat sane' state, a child was arrested at a middle school (kid was 13yo) for picking on a kid and teasing him insistently.

This isn't the best solution. Is all bullying wrong? Yes - but different punishments fit different scenarios. I don't think a kid should be put in handcuffs for verbal bullying. He should be punished, but I don't think he should be directed into the criminal justice system.

Now - for those bullies that actually beat up kids? Yes, those should probably be arrested - although, even in those cases, I might be okay with it being an escalated punishment, not for a first offense - depending on the severity.
Funny you should say that.

In finland we've had huge anti bullying campaigns since our school shootings. If something happens in school in the 1-6th grades, they email us parents to let us know, all the parents in the class are informed something bad happened but the perpetrator and the victim also will be called, or rather their parents. My son is on the first grade and came home with a black eye because an other kid tried to beat his friend and I got nothing.

"Oh, I was under the impression the boys were fighting over the girl. So sorry." Said the teacher.

"Yeah no, the girl that got beaten and kicked by the boy before my son ran in to interfere is my sons friend. You better fucking fix this today and make sure the girl is safe or I will shit on you" (I'm a class act)

I'm complaining since even here we parents need to work to get the truth out.

Now as for the 7-9 grades...

The principal (same school, stricter attitude) has a way with us parents.

"Hello,
You go check your kids phones tonight and report to me if they're acting like shit or I'll call the CPS and cops on the kids that I find don't have the parental supervision needed. My students will not be bullied via apps and if you won't do this, I'll be happy to burn away your tax euros for this."

The girls in that school were bullying horribly a few kids, verbally and with words both spoken and written. One kid landed herself to a hospital to recoup since it took her 2 years to let an adult to know.

Words actually matter more since bruises you can see and they get attention sooner.
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I'd have to respectfully disagree. Practicing an act of violence - get used to the consequences.

I'm 53, and I still remember VIVIDLY that 5-minute interval when my dad, working as assistant DA for the local city, arranged for me to be put in a cell. I can't recall the transgression, but I will never go back.

The social media bullying has every bit the same consequences as any other bullying. And absolutely should be treated with the same level as a physical threat of violence.

The UNFORTUNATE thing is that parents are not taking care of this in their own kids, and expecting school officials/police to do the child-rearing; preset company excluded.
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