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      03-03-2016, 10:34 AM   #23
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Not to go all 'POLITICAL' on you here....

Slick Willy essentially killed manufacturing in the US with NAFTA....it took 20 years for that segment of the economy to recover.
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Stop being factual, please. The economy was good, it must have been because of him. Since Gore invented the Internet, I am sure the whole dotcom things is really about their administration.
Free trade is good, but NAFTA is just free trade for specialized corporate interests...
*Specialized Corporate Interest not in the US....


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Not to go all 'POLITICAL' on you here....

Slick Willy essentially killed manufacturing in the US with NAFTA....it took 20 years for that segment of the economy to recover.
THIS.
It still hasn't returned to pre-NAFTA levels and don't even talk about the blighted cities and lost opportunities.
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Only reason the economy thrived in the 90s was the explosion of the .Com era and information technology. Clinton just so happened to be in office at the time.

He got out at the right time as well. .com got so saturated that they were all overbought.
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Can we end the Clinton talk...my right eye is starting to twitch again.
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What's the relevance? I'm missing the connection
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      03-03-2016, 10:48 AM   #29
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What's the relevance? I'm missing the connection
The fate of the manufacturing sector. That's all. Hyperbolic, sure. Directionally indicative, also yes.
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So many things to be said.

I think that I can dilute it to this for both on the negative side: Both cities destroyed by the results of the application of poor government policies.
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Only reason the economy thrived in the 90s was the explosion of the .Com era and information technology. Clinton just so happened to be in office at the time.

He got out at the right time as well. .com got so saturated that they were all overbought.
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So many things to be said.

I think that I can dilute it to this for both on the negative side: Both cities destroyed by the results of the application of poor government policies.
Grew up in Detroit (well, not IN Detroit...)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-0...e-seen-streets

So sad...
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Well, it's too bad for Trump and his supporters then.

The government is not set up to function like a private company and trying to run it like one will be a miserable failure.
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Well, it's too bad for Trump and his supporters then.

The government is not set up to function like a private company and trying to run it like one will be a miserable failure.
What do you call the current state of our country?
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I think so. I mean, look at Hilary. She and Bill have been in public service their whole careers. They can't have much money. Right? RIGHT?
How any organization can agree to paying her over $200k to stand up in front of some people and speak for an hour or more is beyond me. How it's happened more than once a week for several years inconceivable.

Imagine what you must think of yourself when you seemingly most valuable role in life is to talk in front of people for money. I wonder what you'll begin telling those people..... Maybe what they want to hear? Maybe what the people paying you want you to say?

Talk about overrated, she's reportedly been paid upwards of $1mil for a 2 hour speech.
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How any organization can agree to paying her over $200k to stand up in front of some people and speak for an hour or more is beyond me. How it's happened more than once a week for several years inconceivable.

Imagine what you must think of yourself when you seemingly most valuable role in life is to talk in front of people for money. I wonder what you'll begin telling those people..... Maybe what they want to hear? Maybe what the people paying you want you to say?

Talk about overrated, she's reportedly been paid upwards of $1mil for a 2 hour speech.
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How any organization can agree to paying her over $200k to stand up in front of some people and speak for an hour or more is beyond me. How it's happened more than once a week for several years inconceivable.

Imagine what you must think of yourself when you seemingly most valuable role in life is to talk in front of people for money. I wonder what you'll begin telling those people..... Maybe what they want to hear? Maybe what the people paying you want you to say?

Talk about overrated, she's reportedly been paid upwards of $1mil for a 2 hour speech.
This one lying maniacal demon.


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Well, it's too bad for Trump and his supporters then.

The government is not set up to function like a private company and trying to run it like one will be a miserable failure.
On a small scale that seems to work. Or i should say that someone with a business mind can certainly turn things around.

FL had politicians running things deep into the red for years. It was on the verge of financial crisis when Gov Rick Scott came into office. He entered the political arena only 1 year before making a run for Governor. Once in office he made the hard decisions to stop spending. He was not very popular with those employed by the State but within his first term, FL was back in the black and new plans for sustainable spending have been implemented and government spending has finally started back up. FL is now ranked as the 5th most financially healthy state in the Union and if things stay the same is projected to remain mostly self sustainable for the foreseeable future.

I'm sure it's a simplistic view to assume the same can happen on a federal level and i'm not sure Tump is the guy, but doing the same political garbage over and over expecting different results is just insanity.
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This one lying maniacal demon.


Nothing against democrats but I fucking hate this bitch. What a fucking snake.

I would vote for Bill again before this repulsive c***nt
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This one lying maniacal demon.
Yes, sources said that due to Bill's inability to keep his cawk out of other women, they left the white house $8mil in debt largely due to legal fees and investigations.

But for some reason people are just dying to give her money to hear words fall out of her mouth as she now has a reported net worth of over $30mil largely due to speaking engagement. It's reported that she earns about $125k (or there abouts) per HOUR for speaking engagements.

Disclamer - Didn't watch the video.
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How any organization can agree to paying her over $200k to stand up in front of some people and speak for an hour or more is beyond me. How it's happened more than once a week for several years inconceivable.

Imagine what you must think of yourself when you seemingly most valuable role in life is to talk in front of people for money. I wonder what you'll begin telling those people..... Maybe what they want to hear? Maybe what the people paying you want you to say?

Talk about overrated, she's reportedly been paid upwards of $1mil for a 2 hour speech.
I wouldn't pay 5 cents or walk across the street to see her.
Ok...my right eye is really twitching now.
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I wouldn't pay 5 cents or walk across the street to see her.
Ok...my right eye is really twitching now.
Probably not twitching as hard as Bill's right arm.

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Probably not twitching as hard as Bill's right arm.

You have to admire expertise in any field. He is clearly an expert in his.
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