[Tyga11]

I’m seeing a lot of shaming online about this…

Tourism is the life blood of the Hawaiian economy. At the same time, space seems to be limited and the local Hawaiians need hotels to stay at.

Where do you stand on this?

[c1pher]

Originally Posted by Tyga11

I’m seeing a lot of shaming online about this…

Tourism is the life blood of the Hawaiian economy. At the same time, space seems to be limited and the local Hawaiians need hotels to stay at.

Where do you stand on this?

Why not camp out and go there to help?

[tturedraider]

No, I would not.

[Llarry]

I wouldn't either. Yes, tourism is the island's life blood but they need some time to recover first.

[Germanauto]

No point of going there's a crisis happening. Won't be an enjoyable trip.

[Goldtrom]

They are telling tourists to stay away for the foreseeable future.

There are plenty of official sources you can check. If you want to help the best thing is pick a charity and donate.

[RickFLM4]

No. Way too far to travel to piss people off. They need time and space to recover and don’t necessarily want to go to work right now to cater to tourists. I’d go back later though.

[dscabra]

Having been to Hawaii (Oahu, Maui, Lanai, Kauai, and Hawaii Island) many times (most recently in May of this year), I know how limited resources are on the islands and the impact tourists have there. Now is NOT the time to visit Maui. Let the people who are dealing with this tragedy have time to deal with it. There will be a time when it's okay to go back to Maui, but Lahaina and West Maui in general will take many years to get back to any sort of condition that most would even consider as an enjoyable place to vacation. Let’s respect the locals and give them the space they need.

[JMcLellan]

I wouldn't visit there for a while. The only reason I would go there now is if they were wanting people to come and help rebuild.

[M2siast]

Question is posted in a way that will only get “No” as answers.

A more appropriate way to view it and ask the same question would be:

“You pre-paid for your trip months ago to travel right now, and this is the only time you can spare from work/family to go on a trip.

Do you forfeit your pre-paid trip’s money and stay home without the money and the trip because something is happening in Maui, or do you go knowing flights are kept and hotels kept your reservations?”

Might elicit different responses.

Remember: the media is made to create chaos and dissent. They live on clicks. Life isn’t black and white.

[dscabra]

Originally Posted by M2siast

Question is posted in a way that will only get “No” as answers.

A more appropriate way to view it and ask the same question would be:

“You pre-paid for your trip months ago to travel right now, and this is the only time you can spare from work/family to go on a trip.

Do you forfeit your pre-paid trip’s money and stay home without the money and the trip because something is happening in Maui, or do you go knowing flights are kept and hotels kept your reservations?”

Might elicit different responses.

Remember: the media is made to create chaos and dissent. They live on clicks. Life isn’t black and white.

I stand by my earlier comments. Change your plans and go to a different island. Almost all the airlines are waiving change fees. If you are hellbent on going to Maui, be prepared for a cold reception and lack of "aloha".

[RickFLM4]

Originally Posted by M2siast

Question is posted in a way that will only get “No” as answers.

A more appropriate way to view it and ask the same question would be:

“You pre-paid for your trip months ago to travel right now, and this is the only time you can spare from work/family to go on a trip.

Do you forfeit your pre-paid trip’s money and stay home without the money and the trip because something is happening in Maui, or do you go knowing flights are kept and hotels kept your reservations?”

Might elicit different responses.

Remember: the media is made to create chaos and dissent. They live on clicks. Life isn’t black and white.

In that circumstance, I would look into changing the prepaid plans (other island, push to next year, refund under the circumstances, etc.). Aside from them not wanting tourists right now, it will likely be a less than optimal trip. I never prepay hotels, rental cars or expensive activities, and even if there is a charge, airlines let you change flights, so maybe difficult for me to relate to this scenario.

[Watching The World Burn]

Originally Posted by dscabra

I stand by my earlier comments. Change your plans and go to a different island. Almost all the airlines are waiving change fees. If you are hellbent on going to Maui, be prepared for a cold reception and lack of "aloha".

Are the hotels refunding the non refundable bookings?

It is one thing if you can get all your money back AND also manage to find another place to stay. Looking at the map though, with no personal knowledge of Maui, I'm not certain how much was burnt - from an acreage perspective it is something like 1% I think, but I don't know how much of Maui is burnt that is actually habitable.

Not downplaying the deadliness of the fire or the tragedy of it, seems like it spread very quickly with little time to get out.

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by Watching The World Burn

Are the hotels refunding the non refundable bookings?

It is one thing if you can get all your money back AND also manage to find another place to stay. Looking at the map though, with no personal knowledge of Maui, I'm not certain how much was burnt - from an acreage perspective it is something like 1% I think, but I don't know how much of Maui is burnt that is actually habitable.

Not downplaying the deadliness of the fire or the tragedy of it, seems like it spread very quickly with little time to get out.

This.
Plus, if one wants to watch the world burn, shouldn’t they start with a trip to Maui?

[G35POPPEDMYCHERRY]

^ lmfao outta pocket

[Tyga11]

Originally Posted by dscabra

I stand by my earlier comments. Change your plans and go to a different island. Almost all the airlines are waiving change fees. If you are hellbent on going to Maui, be prepared for a cold reception and lack of "aloha".

They depend on tourism though. There are a lot more affected by the non tourism dollars which won’t be spent there. If everyone had your attitude a lot of businesses would go under

[JMcLellan]

Originally Posted by Watching The World Burn

Are the hotels refunding the non refundable bookings?

It is one thing if you can get all your money back AND also manage to find another place to stay. Looking at the map though, with no personal knowledge of Maui, I'm not certain how much was burnt - from an acreage perspective it is something like 1% I think, but I don't know how much of Maui is burnt that is actually habitable.

Not downplaying the deadliness of the fire or the tragedy of it, seems like it spread very quickly with little time to get out.

Lol at your username in reference to this thread....

What I have seen in the media is that Lahaina got hit pretty hard so I'd imagine the Lahaina and Kaanapali areas of Maui would not be too welcoming to tourists at this time. But other areas like Kapalua on the NW side, Hana to the east, or Makena to the south might be better areas to try if someone had to go there since they can't get a refund.

If there was a way to connect with a travel agent or other resource who really knows what the vibe is at Maui that would be helpful.

[JMcLellan]

Originally Posted by M2siast

This.
Plus, if one wants to watch the world burn, shouldn’t they start with a trip to Maui?

Dang. You barely beat me with your comment on the username related to the title of this thread.....

[G35POPPEDMYCHERRY]

i say go. people travel to other countries where shit like this happens all the time, or even genocides and what have you. this is just on blast by america...do the american thing and just go

[tcphoto]

No, why would you go to a place that has just had a disaster? The locals are struggling to find shelter and food and the airport is packed with those trying to escape. Why complicate what is already chaotic? Perhaps a donation to the Red Cross would be more appropriate right now.

[dscabra]

Originally Posted by Tyga11

They depend on tourism though. There are a lot more affected by the non tourism dollars which won’t be spent there. If everyone had your attitude a lot of businesses would go under

Tourism is only 20% of Hawaii's economy. Yes, it's a significant portion, but you can still feed that by visiting other islands. Maui is not that big, so the effects of this disaster and the other fires currently burning on the island will be felt everywhere on Maui.

[Tyga11]

Originally Posted by tcphoto

No, why would you go to a place that has just had a disaster? The locals are struggling to find shelter and food and the airport is packed with those trying to escape. Why complicate what is already chaotic? Perhaps a donation to the Red Cross would be more appropriate right now.

Do you have proof of any of the above or are you just regurgitating news you’ve seen? You sound very sure of yourself for some reason