[spool twice]

Originally Posted by hotrod182

Kyle used to own a non performance Model 3. Did he upgrade? Nonetheless, the guy on this video is comparing it to his M3P. He said the M50 definitely doesn't have the initial acceleration snap of his Tesla.

I think I'm mistaken on that piece then

Yeah power-to-weight on the M50 isn't favorable at lower speeds, but given how quick Kyle pulled away from that rolling start to pass the iX on his test drive, I can't imagine need more power down low, especially since he said the tires were scrambling for traction already.

[Needsdecaf]

Originally Posted by mpop302

The i4 seemed like they built on the existing architecture. Too much familiar and design that is growing old on me

No "seemed like" at all. It's an electrified 4 series Grand Coupe with a different dashboard.

[techwhiz1]

Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

No "seemed like" at all. It's an electrified 4 series Grand Coupe with a different dashboard.

That is exactly what it is.

Its an electric 4 series.
It's built on the same like and except for electric specific bits it has the same stuff.

For me that's just fine. While a bespoke EV platform would be nice. I'm also a realist and understand that BMW and others can't just abandon existing markets and go to EV only.

The i4 is a bridge car.

[hotrod182]

Originally Posted by spool twice

I think I'm mistaken on that piece then

Yeah power-to-weight on the M50 isn't favorable at lower speeds, but given how quick Kyle pulled away from that rolling start to pass the iX on his test drive, I can't imagine need more power down low, especially since he said the tires were scrambling for traction already.

The really important metric the Tesla cheerleaders leave out is how the M50 will kill their M3P in the 60-130 by around 1.5 seconds.

[spool twice]

Originally Posted by hotrod182

The really important metric the Tesla cheerleaders leave out is how the M50 will kill their M3P in the 60-130 by around 1.5 seconds.

Yes, you are spot on.

0-60 of being .1 or 1/4 mile of being .1 off does not = passing a car in real life unless you really wanted to side-swipe the person next to you

Plus we don't even know real life 0-60, 1/4 mile times of the M50 from reputatable sources yet, the ones that offer more instrumented tests that is.

However, a 60-130mph metric is MUCH more useful to determine if you can gap a car on the highway to get into their lane for the next exit.

1.5 seconds is like the difference between a 328i vs a 335i

[Needsdecaf]

Originally Posted by spool twice

Yes, you are spot on.

0-60 of being .1 or 1/4 mile of being .1 off does not = passing a car in real life unless you really wanted to side-swipe the person next to you

Plus we don't even know real life 0-60, 1/4 mile times of the M50 from reputatable sources yet, the ones that offer more instrumented tests that is.

However, a 60-130mph metric is MUCH more useful to determine if you can gap a car on the highway to get into their lane for the next exit.

1.5 seconds is like the difference between a 328i vs a 335i

I have 75000 miles combined on an AWD Model 3 and a Model 3 performance. For comparison's sake, I also own a 911 Turbo S.

I can assure you I have NEVER, EVER had an issue with performance on the highway going for any gap, merging, or going for an exit even in the Model 3 AWD. And our average cruise speed here in Houston is around 75. I simply leave everything in the dust in the Model 3.

Sure, is the Turbo S notably faster over 75 than the Tesla? Absolutely. But nailing the go pedal on the highway in a Model 3 performance, you're at 110 before you can really react. And because the response is so immediate, there is never a problem making any gap.

[spool twice]

Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

I have 75000 miles combined on an AWD Model 3 and a Model 3 performance. For comparison's sake, I also own a 911 Turbo S.

I can assure you I have NEVER, EVER had an issue with performance on the highway going for any gap, merging, or going for an exit even in the Model 3 AWD. And our average cruise speed here in Houston is around 75. I simply leave everything in the dust in the Model 3.

Sure, is the Turbo S notably faster over 75 than the Tesla? Absolutely. But nailing the go pedal on the highway in a Model 3 performance, you're at 110 before you can really react. And because the response is so immediate, there is never a problem making any gap.

My 330i is sufficient too, it's just one of those "nice to know" type things.