[chassis]

Is it for real?

Wow if it is.

Autopilot foreseeable misuse?

https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...sa-2023-12-13/

[kyriian]

Originally Posted by chassis

Is it for real?

Wow if it is.

Autopilot foreseeable misuse?

https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...sa-2023-12-13/

One of the EV guys on the EV thread mentioned it’s an OTA update.

So while the scale is large, it’s a nothingburger

[gblansten]

Yes. I will have to start the recall journey myself. I will have to hit accept on the Tesla app when it indicates an update is available. I dread having to do this. It will be hard.

[dreamingat30fps]

Originally Posted by chassis

Is it for real?

Wow if it is.

Autopilot foreseeable misuse?

https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...sa-2023-12-13/

Idiots have been trying to misuse "autopilot" since day one. I would hardly call this a recall in the way we have come to know recalls. This is more like the label on coffee cups that coffee is hot and may burn your dumb face.

[BMWCCA1]

Originally Posted by kyriian

So while the scale is large, it’s a nothingburger

Until you find out you've lost functionality after your OTA update!

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by BMWCCA1

Until you find out you've lost functionality after your OTA update!

It will make it harder to defeat the attentiveness needed to keep the autopilot function working. I have no problem with that. I got a huge kick out of the TeSlA RecALl warning though in the press. Danger! Danger!

[BMWCCA1]

Have you seen the Tesla mass-crash scene in the new movie "Leave the World Behind" that pissed off Elon?

[///MPhatic]

Originally Posted by BMWCCA1

Have you seen the Tesla mass-crash scene in the new movie "Leave the World Behind" that pissed off Elon?

But, he has the advantage of knowing every minute of every day that people are talking about him, and no one is talking about them, because they are just names on a page, and he has actually done something with his life.

We matter to ourselves, our families and friends. Elon matters to the world.

[Leucosticte]

Originally Posted by ///MPhatic

But, he has the advantage of knowing every minute of every day that people are talking about him, and no one is talking about them, because they are just names on a page, and he has actually done something with his life.

We matter to ourselves, our families and friends. Elon matters to the world.

Why the Elon worship? This made me start laughing.

[nerdogray]

I saw that headline a few places, too, and felt it was a bit of clickbait. Once you find out it's just an OTA update, you feel a bit teased.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by nerdogray

I saw that headline a few places, too, and felt it was a bit of clickbait. Once you find out it's just an OTA update, you feel a bit teased.

Agree. If you have a Tesla you are already accepting these on the app. I just did one that updated some minor things about a week ago. I always enjoy them because often the tweaks involve something cool even if its a small thing.

[///MPhatic]

Originally Posted by Leucosticte

Why the Elon worship? This made me start laughing.

Your idea of worship is pretty thin, you must believe in god also.

It's an observation, not a worship.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by kyriian

So while the scale is large, it’s a nothingburger

Sounds like a iPhone update. Does anyone say Apple is recalling all their iPhones every time they push an update?

[Donatello.]

Originally Posted by ///MPhatic

But, he has the advantage of knowing every minute of every day that people are talking about him, and no one is talking about them, because they are just names on a page, and he has actually done something with his life.

We matter to ourselves, our families and friends. Elon matters to the world.

Not everyone loves Elon...

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Donatello.

Not everyone loves Elon...

They did before he moved to Texas and bought Twitter.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Sounds like a iPhone update. Does anyone say Apple is recalling all their iPhones every time they push an update?

I think if the iPhone was hazardous to its owners health, then I'd think it would be called a recall.

I think the Autopilot is legitimately a recall because of the safety reason it requires a software update. The recall is the governmental process rather than the manufacturer's solution implementation.

My Ford Bronco was recalled for the rear camera staying on when shifting out of reverse into first gear when the transfercase is in low-range. Ford fixed it with a OTA update.

I'm sure if BMW needs to do a software recall, the owner will still need to visit the dealer. How else would BMW upsell other service needs to its wealthy clientele. "Ma'am your car needs rear brakes, an oil change and coolant flush."

[Clark_Kent]

Originally Posted by Leucosticte

Why the Elon worship? This made me start laughing.

Because there's a lot of Elon dick riding. You didn't know?!

[///MPhatic]

Originally Posted by Donatello.

Not everyone loves Elon...

No one can please all the people all the time. To be loved and hated means you're in a very large crowd...

Originally Posted by Clark_Kent

Because there's a lot of Elon dick riding. You didn't know?!

Spoken like someone who is jealous that his circle doesn't even reach the end of the block. I'm the same, my circle is small, but I'm not jealous about it, I prefer it that way.

[dreamingat30fps]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

I think if the iPhone was hazardous to its owners health, then I'd think it would be called a recall.

I think the Autopilot is legitimately a recall because of the safety reason it requires a software update. The recall is the governmental process rather than the manufacturer's solution implementation.

My Ford Bronco was recalled for the rear camera staying on when shifting out of reverse into first gear when the transfercase is in low-range. Ford fixed it with a OTA update.

I'm sure if BMW needs to do a software recall, the owner will still need to visit the dealer. How else would BMW upsell other service needs to its wealthy clientele. "Ma'am your car needs rear brakes, an oil change and coolant flush."

Did you read what the "recall" actually is? The only thing hazardous about Autopilot is the name, which is only a problem because most of the population doesn't have two brain cells to rub together.

It's like saying the iphone is hazardous to its owners health because people keep walking into traffic while staring down at it. Then Apple has to issue a "recall" to put a fucking warning on the screen every 5 min telling you to look where you're going.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by dreamingat30fps

Did you read what the "recall" actually is? The only thing hazardous about Autopilot is the name, which is only a problem because most of the population doesn't have two brain cells to rub together.

It's like saying the iphone is hazardous to its owners health because people keep walking into traffic while staring down at it. Then Apple has to issue a "recall" to put a fucking warning on the screen every 5 min telling you to look where you're going.

I did read the recall. In summary the issue for the recall is:

"In certain circumstances when Autosteer is engaged, the prominence and scope of the feature’s controls may not be sufficient to prevent driver misuse of the SAE Level 2 advanced driver-assistance feature."

Your assessment and analogy is incorrect. The cell phone is not a walking aid device.

[Leucosticte]

Originally Posted by ///MPhatic

Your idea of worship is pretty thin, you must believe in god also.

It's an observation, not a worship.

It really does sound like worship when any criticism of Musk seems to equate to people just being "jealous" of his success and that he's a worldwide figure that everyone talks about. Forgetting the fact that at the end of the day he's just a human.

[///MPhatic]

Originally Posted by Leucosticte

It really does sound like worship when any criticism of Musk seems to equate to people just being "jealous" of his success and that he's a worldwide figure that everyone talks about. Forgetting the fact that at the end of the day he's just a human.

I guess your idea of worship differs greatly from mine.

I've never spoken about Elon as being anything more than human, I just remind people of the fact that he will be remembered...and they won't. Infer incorrectly from that as you will, everyone does. Ego is a terrible thing, and probably at its best on a BMW board.