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11-10-2013, 11:04 AM | #91 |
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Amazing that a basic laugh of a video showing a bit of i3 electric torque generates 5 pages of debate and sometimes defensiveness.
I would like to see how the new 335d, D3 and B3 (and yes the tesla) compare to the i cars and the e92 for a laugh. Not sure the forums could handle the debate though! |
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11-10-2013, 11:05 AM | #92 |
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Goddammit I bought the wrong car. I'm going to hang myself now. Who wants to buy my slow M3...
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11-10-2013, 12:03 PM | #95 |
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I can not believe the comments on this thread.
This video is not about the M3. It's about changing perceptions of the ugly i3 and BMW electric cars. Before you watched the video how many of you would have thought the i3 could take the M3 off the line? I would have thought no way. So mission successful, my views on this electric car have changed. It's still ugly though. |
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I'd love to get an i3. I'd be making M3 owners cry at stoplights all day long. 0-30 sprint and then cruise and watch them fly by until we get to the next light. Rinse and repeat.
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It's no different than when I happen to line up next to a 328xi at a stop light on a rainy day. I know he's going to kick my ass to the next light.
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Ahhhh...the beautiful thrum of the S65. Oh how I miss my 2011 E92 M3
Now I'm reminded why I walked away from the 435xi test drive impressed by it's refinement and thinking I'd be bored to tears one month into owning one...
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11-10-2013, 02:11 PM | #100 | |
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The i3 is fine and for a niche buyer, but what is the point of this video? |
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11-10-2013, 02:47 PM | #102 |
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You have to remember the beauty of the i3 is in it's efficiency. THAT is the whole purpose of its existence. We are talking about a car that is probably going to be rated at 120MPGe. This is twice as efficient as a Prius, AND much quicker. It holds about 2/3 gallon of fuel equivalent, and yet can go close to 100 miles on that same amount of energy. 1 gal gas=approx. 33kwh. I3 battery = approx. 22kwh.
We are talking about a car that gets better fuel efficiency than any motorcycle, and just about any scooter or moped. That's the perspective you need to look at to realize how revolutionary these cars are. To put things into context, you take 4 people on a 50mile trip in this thing for the same amount of energy it takes to run your Central air conditioner for about 2hrs. And don't forget the Porsche 918 was berated for all its unnecessary batteries, and motors, etc. Then it promptly went out and shattered the Nuburgring lap record for a production car. Electric cars are absolutely effortless on the launch. And though they may be faster, it almost makes you laugh hearing how hard a petrol engine car has to try to keep up. A 4800Lb Tesla Sedan will beat almost any stock M3 0-60mph and through the qtr mile. I believe the EPA rating is about 85MPGe on that same Tesla. Again, better than a Prius by a wide margin.
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11-10-2013, 04:36 PM | #105 | |
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As to someone else that said, 'But, it would probably make a good city car'...well, people that's exactly what it was designed for...not thrill rides in the country, or bombing up that canyon road, but getting around a city, with it's typically lower speed limits, high congestion, stop and go, lousy parking opportunities...it's a small car, designed to get around without the hit of a gas guzzler that just adds pollutants to the air when things get dicey in a city sitting at a light. We know the M drivers, if it offered it, would turn off start stop. The I-series is designed for a specific purpose, if you don't happen to prize that, or feel it's a worthwhile implementation of it, feel free to continue to drive what you drive, but please, widen your horizons to realize not everyone thinks like you do, or has your needs or wants. Hard to say if the trend will continue, but where the i3 is available, it's selling MUCH faster than BMW thought, so all of you nay-sayers must be missing something. The i3 is NOT designed as a general purpose vehicle...it's optimized for use in and around a city environment. If you can't see that, I'm sorry. Comparing it to general purpose, or specialized, high performance vehicles is like the proverbial apples to oranges comparison...they are quite different. There are good reasons why you might use a ball peen hammer verses a big sledge...their intended uses are quite different. |
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11-10-2013, 05:04 PM | #106 | |
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Just go do a skidpan gymkhana; Ive even seen city cars trashing serious machinery simply because the tires virtually ignored the water. Now the i3 has fairly low profile (so less wheel hop than traditional high profile tires) + skinny rubber and full power available off the line. |
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All the M3 owners relax...we all love the M3 😂
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Fact is, on this day, in these circumstances, the i3 got a little way up the road a little faster, then, predictable lost heavily to the M3.
Not sure why the butt-hurt, excuse making and trash-talking, I don't think anyone is suggesting that the i3 is a superior performance machine. It does show the potential of light weight electric vehicles... even thos with skinny tyres. |
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