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      07-12-2019, 09:12 AM   #1
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New climate study out of Finland

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...exist-practice

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“A new scientific study could bust wide open deeply flawed fundamental assumptions underlying controversial climate legislation and initiatives such as the Green New Deal, namely, the degree to which 'climate change' is driven by natural phenomena vs. man-made issues measured as carbon footprint. Scientists in Finland found "practically no anthropogenic [man-made] climate change" after a series of studies.

During the last hundred years the temperature increased about 0.1°C because of carbon dioxide. The human contribution was about 0.01°C”, the Finnish researchers bluntly state in one among a series of papers.”

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inb4 fake news or scientists have an agenda from the left
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Sounds like a racist climatephobe to me. These scientists must be doxed and their lives destroyed for not agreeing with AOC and the creepy as fuck Swedish climate change girl.
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You are sure it's not satire? The guy who wrote it is Tyler Durden (Fight Club)
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      07-12-2019, 11:09 AM   #5
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You are sure it's not satire? The guy who wrote it is Tyler Durden (Fight Club)
read the actual paper linked, not the article if you dont trust what the article has to say
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You are sure it's not satire? The guy who wrote it is Tyler Durden (Fight Club)
Quite a bit of what appears on this site (Zero Hedge) is authored by “Tyler Durden” and you are correct the name is taken from Fight Club. As with any site reporting anything, it is best to follow links or google to the source and read that for an original version with only the actual author’s interpretations or spin.
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Here is the link to the paper: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1907.00165.pdf

Would be nice to see comments on it from other climate scientists.
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read the actual paper linked, not the article if you dont trust what the article has to say
I just wanted to make sure

That is great!
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99.9% of peer reviewed scientists disagree. There is always a small percentage that will disagree with mainstream.

I have studied it since 1981. I have done the math. Like i said before the odds of having the 20 hottest global years in the last 25 years is like one out of a billion.

But I have also said its gone to far to change. I'm also pragmatic. The science is interesting.
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Does this mean earth is not flat?
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...exist-practice

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“A new scientific study could bust wide open deeply flawed fundamental assumptions underlying controversial climate legislation and initiatives such as the Green New Deal, namely, the degree to which 'climate change' is driven by natural phenomena vs. man-made issues measured as carbon footprint. Scientists in Finland found "practically no anthropogenic [man-made] climate change" after a series of studies.

During the last hundred years the temperature increased about 0.1°C because of carbon dioxide. The human contribution was about 0.01°C”, the Finnish researchers bluntly state in one among a series of papers.”

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D’oh, AOC. Danm dyslexai.
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6 pages seems a bit short to me for a 'scientific study'...(a masters degree paper is usually at least 30 pages+ let alone a doctorate study....)

And the references are also a bit questionable (the writer mainly references to himself (of course it would be interesting to investigate how often he himself is referenced in the field of climate studies))

Of course that doesn't say the writer is wrong, but his conclusions would have had so much more impact if he had done actual moddeling himself in this study......

But who knows, maybe there will be a snowballing effect where his statemens are investigated and modelled.
It's always a good thing when people try to disprove the status quo.
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99.9% of peer reviewed scientists disagree. There is always a small percentage that will disagree with mainstream.

I have studied it since 1981. I have done the math. Like i said before the odds of having the 20 hottest global years in the last 25 years is like one out of a billion.

But I have also said its gone to far to change. I'm also pragmatic. The science is interesting.
I've been studying it since the 70s and it's political BS. All of it.
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Where is LUPS in all this? What part did she play?
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You guys are all wrong.....since you did NOT consult with Al Gore!!!!
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99.9% of peer reviewed scientists disagree. There is always a small percentage that will disagree with mainstream.

I have studied it since 1981. I have done the math. Like i said before the odds of having the 20 hottest global years in the last 25 years is like one out of a billion.

But I have also said its gone to far to change. I'm also pragmatic. The science is interesting.
99.9% eh? that's a pretty astounding number....happen to have a source for that? sorry, just seems like even Tomas d'Torquemada would be suspicious of a number like that.
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Although I am not a climate scientist and am only stating my opinion, I do understand data collection, analytics and sampling. We have only a sliver of data compared to the life of the planet. The samples we take are only comparative to the past few decades and the conditions under which temperature samples are gained are in a variety of locations such as high altitudes, cement roofs or lots, fields etc. Many of these sensors are fairly new and sensors used from let’s say a hundred years ago no longer exist and have been replaced and put in a new location. It’s very difficult to provide comparative and controlled statistical analysis. And that’s merely to measure the temperature. Then there’s determining the cause of temperature or weather changes. Is it sun spots or lack there of, minute changes in our rotation relative to the sun, changing weather patterns, pollution, carbon, earth core temperature variations? I don’t know. Putting all those variables and considerations together make it seem nearly impossible to prove a single cause to climate change or that eliminating one factor will have a measurable impact on climate.
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