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      10-18-2019, 09:15 AM   #89
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Well. You are correct about that and I agree in theory. It seems that the people associated with Epstein and Co. are quite a bit more sinister than those associated with Mr. Trump. We are talking about human trafficking here and the lowest denominator of that: Child Trafficking.

There is nothing that Mr. Trump has alleged to be doing or has done that even remotely approaches that.

And my drink is a quad-grande Americano and only cost 3.45. I'm frugal.

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I'm even cheaper - venti drip coffee with room.

Yes, that wasn't an attempt to equate anything folks from this administration have been found guilty of to the evilness of child trafficking. As you said, it doesn't get worse than that.
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I'm even cheaper - venti drip coffee with room.

Yes, that wasn't an attempt to equate anything folks from this administration have been found guilty of to the evilness of child trafficking. As you said, it doesn't get worse than that.
Lol! I drip Italian or French roast at home if I' feeling lazy. I prefer it strong!

I know that on the comparison, my friend, and my most abject apologies if it seemed that way to you.
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Lol! I drip Italian or French roast at home if I' feeling lazy. I prefer it strong!

I know that on the comparison, my friend, and my most abject apologies if it seemed that way to you.
No apologies needed, just wanted to make myself crystal clear to the audience given the heinous nature of what Esptein evidently did.
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      11-04-2019, 07:21 AM   #92
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I'm even cheaper - venti drip coffee with room.

Yes, that wasn't an attempt to equate anything folks from this administration have been found guilty of to the evilness of child trafficking. As you said, it doesn't get worse than that.
Really can you provide the court documents and jury verdict of this guilt? Just because he won an election doesn't revoke him of innocent until proven guilty and thus far he hasn't been found guilty of any 'evilness' despite three years of media dogpiling and an extremely expensive investigation.
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Really can you provide the court documents and jury verdict of this guilt? Just because he won an election doesn't revoke him of innocent until proven guilty and thus far he hasn't been found guilty of any 'evilness' despite three years of media dogpiling and an extremely expensive investigation.


You realize that there have been many more people, apart from Donald, that have been part of this administration since he took office, yes?

Flynn was part of the administration, as an example.
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You realize that there have been many more people, apart from Donald, that have been part of this administration since he took office, yes?

Flynn was part of the administration, as an example.
Flynn was convicted not trump.

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He may end up being innocent because the government did illegal stuff to try and convict him

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Flynn was convicted not trump.
Yes, that was my exact point. An administration is more than just the President.

What are you not understanding here? I said "this administration". That includes all of Trump's cabinet from day #1. Like Flynn.
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Maybe when the President does something wrong (high misdemeanor), then yes.

In Trump's case, not liking the President is not a proof he (the President) should be impeached.
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You've got a long row to hoe if you want to assert that a CIA employee tasked with (possibly) conducting intel briefs at the White House is the same thing as "working for" the Vice President.

In no rational world are those two things the same. They're not even in the same ballpark.

I've briefed lots of people I didn't work for and I was in no way beholden to them, or anyone else in the room for that matter.

If you're picking up an inferiority complex, you don't read nearly enough psych material. It's amusing, if nothing else, though.

As far as a source being a source, I've many, MANY posts here castigating "anonymous sources" when it suits a particular goal. I treat them all with a healthy dose of skepticism, personally.
"Michael Atkinson, the Intelligence Community's inspector general, told members of Congress that the whistleblower had a "professional tie" to a 2020 Democratic candidate.

A CIA officer specializing in Russia and Ukraine, Ciaramella was detailed over to the National Security Council from the agency in the summer of 2015, working under Susan Rice, President Obama’s national security adviser. He also worked closely with the former vice president."

And guess who was point man on Ukraine...crooked Joe of course.
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And that's still not "working for" Joe. My point stands. Hell, he didn't even really "work for" Rice. He "worked for" the Director of the CIA.

Even if it turns out to be Ciaramella, so what? The whistleblower could literally be Hillary Clinton and it wouldn't matter. Every bit of testimony that has been released, every opening statement, it's all backed up the concerns detailed in the "whistleblower" report.
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And that's still not "working for" Joe. My point stands. Hell, he didn't even really "work for" Rice. He "worked for" the Director of the CIA.

Even if it turns out to be Ciaramella, so what? The whistleblower could literally be Hillary Clinton and it wouldn't matter. Every bit of testimony that has been released, every opening statement, it's all backed up the concerns detailed in the "whistleblower" report.
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And that's still not "working for" Joe. My point stands. Hell, he didn't even really "work for" Rice. He "worked for" the Director of the CIA.

Even if it turns out to be Ciaramella, so what? The whistleblower could literally be Hillary Clinton and it wouldn't matter. Every bit of testimony that has been released, every opening statement, it's all backed up the concerns detailed in the "whistleblower" report.
Hahaha that first paragraph is so purposely obtuse it's not worth replying to. And no none of the testimony has even remotely proved the fake whistleblowers false claims. The select leaks from the Democrats did appear to lend credence to it, but the FULL transcripts show it all to be BS.
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Hahaha that first paragraph is so purposely obtuse it's not worth replying to. And no none of the testimony has even remotely proved the fake whistleblowers false claims. The select leaks from the Democrats did appear to lend credence to it, but the FULL transcripts show it all to be BS.
I've briefed tons of people I didn't "work for". It's not obtuse, in the least bit.

When Joe left office, did this CIA guy's job end, or was he still employed by the CIA?

No, the full transcripts show nothing of the sort. Don't bother posting the quote mining from Zeldin about Taylor's testimony and the New York Times. Read the testimony for context, Taylor was speaking about a time before he became aware of the quid pro quo due to conversations with Sondland and Morrison.
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Flynn was convicted not trump.
Yes, that was my exact point. An administration is more than just the President.

What are you not understanding here? I said "this administration". That includes all of Trump's cabinet from day #1. Like Flynn.
unless General Flynn's guilty plea is thrown out for being the result of gross prosecutorial misconduct and the case is dismissed because no crime was committed.....
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No, but he needs to watch his shit. But he's not much worse then the rest, Clinton, etc.

I'm more interested in what can we do to Creepy Joe. Anything?!
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Wow 69% here dont believe Trump should be impeached!!
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Wow 69% here dont believe Trump should be impeached!!
They don't care like how Dems didn't care that Clinton lied under oath about his relationship with Lewinsky. The irony of course is that Clinton committed an arguably lesser crime than Trump and many Trumpsters were also vehemently pro-impeachment with regards to Clinton.

Impeachment isn't a legal but a political process.
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I grew up in a family 1/2 repubs (moms side) 1/2 dems (dads side). I love both sides, in fact the repubs are really beautiful salt of the earth extremely hardworking industrious and successful. The dems in my fam have a big heart for immigrants, other races than white, often have served their community by heading homeless shelters, serving in various offices locally and even nationally. I have had a lifetime close to politics and have gotten to meet many great men and women on both sides who I love and respect. I feel like I have a very unique perspective than most in America because I really can make an argument for what is great about both parties and I respect them for different reasons.

However. Donald Trump need not be the leader of the free world. Oh and I also worked in commercial real estate in southern california and have been around plenty of developers ,brokers and successful investors. This man need not be the leader of our country.
I give all presidents a chance at showing us who they really are while serving our country for the first term. Donald Trump is not a person we need running our country.

That is all.
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