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      04-09-2020, 11:36 AM   #1
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Will F1 cars eventually have no pedals?

When you think about the steering wheel in these cars, with the ability to adjust camber nowadays I think it's only a matter of time before pedals are gone too.

What are your thoughts on this thought?
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I don't really think it makes sense to stop using 2 of the 4 appendages available to us. I also think that controlling throttle and brake, which are both variable in use, would be challenging to modulate properly with just fingers. I've never actually driven a race car but I'm also guessing that there's a ton of feedback coming through at least the brake pedal that would be lost
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DAS is actually for toe adjustment not cambers.. and its already banned..
what do you think they can do with pedals?

McLaren had brake-steer pedal (brakes the inside rear wheel for less understeer when needed) in the past like 20-25 years ago.. and actually road going McLaren's have brake-steer still..
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Well said -

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I worry that F1 will eventually have no drivers.
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I seriously doubt F1 cars will get rid of pedals, at least in our lifetime. The steering wheel is already full of different buttons and switches, along with the various paddles on the back. There's arguably too many controls on the steering wheel as it is.

From the perspective of efficiency and workload, it wouldnt make sense to move the pedal controls onto the steering wheel. That would be adding to how much the driver has to do on the steering wheel and leaving their legs useless for the race. It just doesnt make sense. And dont forget how often the drivers change settings on the steering wheel. Having the brake and throttle mounted on the steering wheel would limit how often they can make changes without "letting off" the gas/brake.

F1 is all about efficiency and the best use of what you have. There is no measurable benefit (at least that I can see) for them to move these controls to the steering wheel.

I mean, just look at this thing!
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Also, if anyone is interested, here's a quick little snippet of how to operate the clutch of an F1 car. The video is a little old, but the concept is still largely the same. You'll find plenty of videos online about the steering wheel in general, but not many that focus on the clutch.

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I seriously doubt F1 cars will get rid of pedals, at least in our lifetime. The steering wheel is already full of different buttons and switches, along with the various paddles on the back. There's arguably too many controls on the steering wheel as it is.

From the perspective of efficiency and workload, it wouldnt make sense to move the pedal controls onto the steering wheel. That would be adding to how much the driver has to do on the steering wheel and leaving their legs useless for the race. It just doesnt make sense. And dont forget how often the drivers change settings on the steering wheel. Having the brake and throttle mounted on the steering wheel would limit how often they can make changes without "letting off" the gas/brake.

F1 is all about efficiency and the best use of what you have. There is no measurable benefit (at least that I can see) for them to move these controls to the steering wheel.

I mean, just look at this thing!
Very interesting . Thanks for sharing my friend

Finally I found a clear pic. from Merc's DAS
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Very interesting . Thanks for sharing my friend

Finally I found a clear pic. from Merc's DAS
Thanks for finding a photo! The official F1 website recently published a detailed overview of PAS (power assisted steering) that Ferrari (and Mercedes) ran last year. It's supposedly the precursor to the DAS.

Here's the detailed technical write up, if you're interested:

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...v2cMFjHD4.html
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