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I really, really, really want to order an iX. After many road-trips with Bluecruise, I'm having trouble with the idea of having to touch the wheel every few seconds.
True hands free must be coming soon??? Please tell me it is. I want this car! On edit: I see that the online configurator for the I7 lists "Highway Assist" while the xDrive50 no longer lists any assist options at all. That can't be permanent. Can it? Is there an announcement coming or did I just encounter an update in progress? |
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Highway Assistant is the next version and it allows hands-free driving up to 80mph. It is available on the 7 Series and should be available on the iX next March.
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I hear you. The hands free driving in highway slowdowns (traffic jam assist) actually makes me happy to run into patches of traffic. The iX reportedly has the tech necessary to enable highway assist like on the i7, so I’m hoping it’ll become available with a future update. There’s a thread about this with links to more info.
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I am sure I am ignorant on this subject but it seems like if Ford/GM can do hands free, BMW should be able to do it if the current system only requires a finger on the steering wheel.
That said, I watched this video below and not sure the technology on anything is good enough to not worry about taking control. |
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Frustrating for those waiting but probably a good marketing strategy to hold off until everything is dotted and crossed then come out with fanfare. I've had Bluecruise for awhile and several >1,000 mile road-trips. I still watch it pretty close but my confidence is growing. |
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I am finding the iX with Active Driver Assist Pro to be vastly better than my Tesla AP/EAP was for 4 years of ownership.
I do prefer the Germans approach of only promising what they can deliver, and actually delivering it. Right now Tesla fandom is holding a large set of contradictory beliefs in their head that - * it’s OK that Tesla makes contradictory statements on which features of AP/EAP are BETA or not (check sales page vs marketing page vs user manual..) * FSD is really great almost perfect, totally worth $15k for BETA software you have to test into being allowed to use AFTER paying! * $15k software being bound to both owner&car and not transferring on 3rd party sale or to your new Tesla is fine, just pay $15k again * any of the long list of FSD issues are OK because its BETA * any youtube video of FSD not working is posted by a hater * whatever scenario FSD fails in “Tesla never said FSD supports that yet” (ie trolley cars, bollards, pedestrians under 3ft tall) * Tesla never publishes any list of what FSD support.. * “I can drive almost X miles/minutes without disengagement with FSD” * but also “My wife won’t let me use FSD when shes in the car” |
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Curious that article mentions future modes like ix5, ix7 etc. I wonder how an ix5 will compare to the ix?
Also as someone that’s never had a driver assist system, what’s the point of using it if you can’t really trust it vs just driving the car yourself? |
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If you are failing to pay attention, it will turn wheel yellow, and then red on HUD/dash, and flash the lights on the wheel.. as well as finally shaking wheel a little & beeping if it disengages you (hud/dash wheel color goes gray) and forces you to take control. I find this is better at monitoring & forcing driver attention than Tesla, with a few escalation steps. Tesla AP/EAP had frequent disengagements and didn’t shake wheel, and since Model 3/Y have no dash/hud.. the screen turning colors to warn you was out of line of sight. Further the wheel torque sensor on Tesla is far more annoying to maintain without putting too little torque or too much which then takes you out of autosteer. The Tesla “take control” alert sound is also very frightening, and can be triggered for either driver inattention or road conditions AP/EAP can’t handle. It would frequently get triggered at certain highway interchanges, splits, and HOV merges… even when my hands are on wheel & eyes on road (I already had control). There were certain road scenarios Tesla would make this “take control” alert and then immediately re-assert control in the span of half a second. Passengers would get concerned we were about to crash. Just bananas. |
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The driver assist systems make a world of difference. The driving is much more relaxed and stress free. Between the X5 and M340i I have used it over 50k miles on all different road types (urban, rural, highway, etc.) and it does an excellent job. I think a lot has to do with people's expectations. Some don't realize it is a direct assistance system and not an autonomous driving system.
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Highway Assist on xDrive50
I see that the online configurator for the I7 lists "Highway Assist" while the iX xDrive50 no longer lists any assist options at all. That can't be permanent. Can it? Is there an announcement coming or did I just encounter an update in progress?
(New to the BMW world and still getting used to the terminology.) |
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Given that my life, those of my passengers, and those of the people around me are hanging in the balance, I am more than happy to rest my hands on the wheel. Moreover, I enjoy driving; the driverless car future is unappealing to me.
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