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      11-13-2021, 07:17 PM   #67
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I am fine having these on electric vehicle range but hate when BMW is forcing this onto their mainstream ICE and M vehicles.

Unlike controversial exterior looks, one has to live with this interior on a day to day basis. This screen and interface will definitely be a deal breaker in my future decisions.
Agreed with this. I will think long and hard before purchasing a iDrive 8 car.

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In my mind, the tablet / touchscreen move has been a disaster... a lot of gloss for little practicality.

Why in the world would you ever get rid of the buttons that are constantly used and have a strong tactile feel?

You always need Volume / Mute, Fan speed and Temperature as a physical button... Anything else creates distractions and increases the chance of an accident... this is a bizarre world we are moving towards.
I have a smart idea. Why don’t they make the infotainment system an option? Where customers like myself can option an infotainment system with buttons. Those that don’t want the buttons can option that. Why can’t they give people the option to option and buy what they want?
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The decision to offer touch only controls is perplexing, especially with increased emphasis on reducing distracted driving.
I assume most of the new touch screen technology is designed with autonomous driving in mind, therefore the driver would be able to play with the screen/system whilst the car was in control
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The decision to offer touch only controls is perplexing, especially with increased emphasis on reducing distracted driving.
I assume most of the new touch screen technology is designed with autonomous driving in mind, therefore the driver would be able to play with the screen/system whilst the car was in control
We are nowhere near full-autonomous driving (from any manufacturer, despite what Musk has said is "right around the corner" for 6 years now).

Until then the driver must have his full attention on the road and must be maintaining full situational awareness even if the car has assumed control. It is highly irresponsible for anyone to do otherwise since it's literally lives at stake.
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I "expect" BMW would package the iDrive8 screen better in the 3 series LCI next year and the 5 series refresh for 2025. If the screen looks the same like it does in the i - then no thank you BMW.

For me - having a knob for volume up and down and buttons for temp controls are a real nice to have - its fine to lose buttons but having 2-3 basic ones is a no brainer unless BMW thinks they're going to be the new Tesla.
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We are nowhere near full-autonomous driving (from any manufacturer, despite what Musk has said is "right around the corner" for 6 years now).

Until then the driver must have his full attention on the road and must be maintaining full situational awareness even if the car has assumed control. It is highly irresponsible for anyone to do otherwise since it's literally lives at stake.
I agree with you on the safety aspects however the large manufactures are pushing this technology, if people had said we would be driving electric powered cars with touch screen controls and one pedal driving ten years ago we would have had the same reaction. Technology is expanding exponentially and innovation growing of the back of previous innovation.

“Technology goes beyond mere tool making; it is a process of creating ever more powerful technology using the tools from the previous round of innovation.” –Ray Kurzweil

I'm in my 50's and definitely not a supporter of some of the proposed and rolled out technology however like a lot of things in this current age we are not in control.
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