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Sedan, you may not know much about it since different country and all, but, what are your guys take on the feds proposing to do away with minimum sentences for crimes committed with firearms (first time, non violent, etc...not sure how non violent it is if you have a firearm but whatever)...they are suggesting that they do away with minimum sentences here (also same thing for drugs as I understand). In the next breath however, the same government also prohibited a bunch of firearms for legal owners who are law abiding citizens, and are continuing their efforts to make it harder and harder to own a gun in Canada (legally speaking anyway...if you are a criminal, its pretty easy and no minimum sentences if they have their way). It's messed up. IMO. |
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Would you not buy a model if this type of system is standard/included? Don't worry - Porsche's PAS is still optional on the 911. |
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ABS systems automate emergency braking. Would you disable yours if you could? If not, I guess there is a threshold above ABS-type intervention/assistance that you object to between your driving and the car's control system. I think it is helpful to think about the continuum of car control systems that help the driver stay safe. I understand that different people may have different thresholds for acceptable intervention. |
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My point in raising ABS (anti-lock braking) was to indicate that there is a level of automation/intervention that people are willing to accept even if they are not willing to accept automated braking (collision avoidance/mitigation). ABS (anti-lock braking) and automated braking (collision avoidance/mitigation) are both part of the driver assistance system - just different level of intervention. |
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I did make a typo error when I meant to say "driving is a privilege", and said "not a privilege" (meaning not a right). That said: There's a difference between "the government" mandating our lives and regulations that are meant to prevent issues and fatalities. I agree I don't want automated systems that measure or track how I drive, let alone interfere with it. Because I can choose to drive in a way that is responsible and safe, even if outside of the "safe borders" set by such systems if they do exist. You can't 1) "choose" how to drive responsibly if you're drunk, 2) it isn't about how "you" drive, because you're sharing the road with others. It's not about you. Driving drunk should never be permissible. It frustrates me that an officer that sees tragedies would feel that a drunk driver was just exercising their preferences. I do agree with setting baselines, to regulate things. E.g. speed limits, anti-trust laws, protectionism, taxes… I think you're missing the point in that an interlock is a punishment if done in the way I described. It'd be the same as saying that having the key to the car a punishment to us that are not thieves… |
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I posted something about this a while back on my Facebook and got a surprisingly large amount of kickback. I even posted about how to properly set your side mirrors and received kickback as well. I agree that some features are very helpful, but at what point are we taking away from attentive driving and skill and relying too much on automated systems? I think we crossed that line long ago. Take a rear camera for example, simple feature that can be a big help, but I've witnessed too many people not physically look while backing up and strictly rely on the camera. The camera is there to assist, not be your only set of eyes. Years ago I had bad stomach pains and drove my self to the ER and wound up immediately going into surgery for appendicitis. I drove my 1989 Toyota rust bucket pickup. The gal I was dating was dropped off at the hospital so she took my truck back to my place to take care of my dog. She drove 10 miles in low light conditions without headlights because she didn't know how to turn them on, she has only ever had automatic headlights. Another headlight story, a friend of mine whom I work on post with was driving home during heavy rain without her headlights on (it's law in MN to have headlights on during inclement weather and even overcast cloudy days). Later I told her she should have her lights on and she stated she can't, they are automatic. I tried to explain to her that there is still a knob or a switch to physically turn them on and she argued that there wasn't, and I had to show her how. IMO it should be a requirement to drive a manual clutch with no automated systems to pass a drivers test. Never know when you might be in a situation that you need to do so.
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Unfortunately, many people don't drive cars anymore, but giant SUVs.
This has made devices like TPM, stability control, backup cameras, even higher barriers on the road side, pretty much universal. The people have chosen. Gas tax increase, anyone? Last edited by vanguard8; 12-10-2021 at 05:42 AM.. |
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I'm one of those drivers that is constantly commenting about how other people drive. Irritates my wife. But it's how I vent. On the outside you wouldn't know because I don't need any road rage events. No finger or horn or tailgating. In fact if someone is driving like an idiot I try to stay as far away as I can. Well I am retired so I have all day to pretty much do nothing. |
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