[EVTee]

All the new bmws look hideous. If you want to give me a big grille then make it more three dimensional like in the 3.0 CSL hommage concept. The flatness of these new grille designs is what makes it awful.

[clee1982]

Looks fine but wish it had more performances

[MikeTerp]

Well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but this grille is definitely polarizing. Some will like it, but my bet is that more will not like it. Given that that we will see many BEVs coming from many manufacturers in the next few years, some with stunning designs, BMW does not appear to have put themselves in the pole position for sales - that is, unless they come in with truly remarkable pricing, which I doubt. Guess we will see, but too bad they didn't try a little harder to make the design more universally desirable.

[Blindside_137]

I wouldn't drive this if you paid me. Don't care if the E-tron GT or Model X are more expensive, they look GOOD. I would definitely have one as a commuter in the future.

I can't find a single flattering angle on this car.

[am3r1ka]

Originally Posted by MoeMuc

You know that this Audi thing is at about 100k and the BMW more like 50ish?

By the way the Frontend of this Max Specd Audi is nice, but that rearend is ugly as hell.
You might have an other opinion, guess that's what people call taste :

Whether it's 100k or 50k, a good design is a good design. The Honda Accord is like 20k and pulls off a better design. Albeit it's Audi-esque design.

[Teutonic]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

A reason why the Hofmeister Kink should not have been dropped. This window silhouette design is used a lot in the industry.

What do you expect?
BMW is now just another sheep... All personal and characteristic elements have been dropped for Audi grille made from mosquito screens and wall and glued Ipad dashboards from Mercedes.

Don’t care about electric anyway. When all BMW’s will be electric I willbuy whatever gas or diesel vehicle exists while I will try to maintain my NA bimmers.
I rather have a gasoline KIA than an electric BMW. And based on the latest exterior and interior design I can see that whatever I pick outside this, will still be better...

[bavarianboar]

Originally Posted by eljay

So, first, they take the "M3" name and slap it onto a 4-door and call the legendary coupe "M4". Then, bring an EV with 4 doors and call it "i4".

They already make an i3 in a different form factor, what other naming were you suggesting? Like iS? For sedan like iX for suv?

[nye2018sd]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

A reason why the Hofmeister Kink should not have been dropped. This window silhouette design is used a lot in the industry.

Am I the only one who thinks the car's exterior is completely BLAND, BORING, NO SHARP LINES, NOTHING FUTURSTIC, and the concept version looks way better?

I am sure in terms of comfort, technology, and range it will succeed. But look wise, a huge disappointment.

Seriously, they have a chance to create something visually sexy along the lines of an i8 as an example, but this, come on.

[jtcl]

Originally Posted by Inductive

Yeah, I've never been a huge fan of most Audi designs - IMO maybe the R8 meets the emotional expectations for how a halo car is styled, but the rest of the Audi lineup has always paled in comparison (e.g. E and F Chassis BMWs).

But ever since the G11 LCI and X7 onward, Dukec's team has really shown why certain brand traits shouldn't be allowed to be compromised. The designers clearly are designing for themselves these days, not for the customers (unless Chinese).

And the comparison posted is for comparing and contrasting both exterior designs since they're both BEV sedans/saloons.

Absolutely agree. As a BMW fans and been owning a couple till now, I can't persuade myself to buy one of these so call newly designed BMW.

New M3/M4 now looks miles better than this i4. Despite I'm not exactly a fans of the new big grill, M3 and M4 are at least more appealing and better shaped.

The side profile of this i4 is so washed out, I don't see anything to do with a Grand Coupe. By contrast, Audit e-tron GT look so much better.

BMW, would you please release a better M performance version......

[jtcl]

Originally Posted by nye2018sd

Am I the only one who thinks the car's exterior is completely BLAND, BORING, NO SHARP LINES, NOTHING FUTURSTIC, and the concept version looks way better?

I am sure in terms of comfort, technology, and range it will succeed. But look wise, a huge disappointment.

Seriously, they have a chance to create something visually sexy along the lines of an i8 as an example, but this, come on.

I definitely agree with you.

[JorgenM]

Gorgeous car, can't wait to see other colours. And as usual any BMW looks even better in real.
New grille works so much better than on M3/M4, partly because of the framing.

To me the Audi front is a disaster. Trying to be a Porsche like. And range-wise it's a knockout by BMW!

[MoeMuc]

Originally Posted by am3r1ka

Whether it's 100k or 50k, a good design is a good design. The Honda Accord is like 20k and pulls off a better design. Albeit it's Audi-esque design.

As I wrote some comments later, I think design is always arguable. I like it, I also like the normal 4er and love the M3/M4. I have to admit that this low specd I4 here wouldn't be my favourite - but the whole communication seems to be improvised, like they didn't have the time to prepare it properly - having seen different specs driving around in Munich - I am sure there will be enough people who will be very excited about this.

I respect your opinion not liking this car, so probably you have to look out for something different, that's the business, so please don't get me wrong. It might be impossible to come to a conclusion weather a product is good or bad just by looking at its styling. When I buy or lease a car I try to consider all aspects of it, this includes its features and technical specs - and its price (even if not clear yet) compared to the competition.

Well. We can still discuss the new grills, the shape of the c-piller, the curved wide (double) screen, the name.... for the whole year, like it has been done the whole last year here - but come on, isn't it getting boring?

[InsideDK]

yesterday we also got the trim levels and prices for the BMW ix.

It comes in "Essence" and " Signature Sport". Do you think there will not be any M-Sport trim level for the EV cars?

Below picture shows the trim difference. Signature Sport at the top and Essence at the bottom. Based on this, the i4 reveal pictures yesterday must be from the i4 Essence trim level. Hope they will show a more sportier trim as well.

But in the right color, i'm sure that the new grille of the i4 will blend nicely with the rest of the car.

[MoeMuc]

Inductive jtcl
Please don't get me wrong, I understand that we have two opinions here, I guess that should be fine

Maybe the design is just too polarising, so that it would make sense to Ararat are new thread to talk about the technical aspects. Maybe the EV offer is a more concerning topic here in Europe as it is massively forced not only by tons of money from the government, but also by restrictions that are in discussion, like the new emissions norm EU7, which could delete ICE models totally or already existing facts like the ban of ICE cars in the UK (could come to the EU too).

I will get my f90 in a few weeks (hopefully) and I will try to enjoy it together with the 3er as long as I can - but then I need something to replace at least the 3er as a good powerful daily driver with a proper range (I drive about 60000 km a year). That's why people in Europe might be more focussed on the abilities of the car, even if it means to drive in an ugly but fast can on four wheels :

[OM3RTA]

Originally Posted by chicagofan00

I like the looks of this overall (not a fan of the wheels). Hoping we get to see what the interior will look like soon enough as I believe that is what the upcoming LCI for the 3 series is supposed be getting next year...right?

I actually think in terms of aero wheels, assuming that's what these are, they are about the best looking I have seen yet.

[OM3RTA]

Originally Posted by Mako

I like the side and back, hate the front

Why can't they design it without a grill which is pointless? It's like the designers felt they had to put something there and went over the top.
, this there is no reason for that thing. Would actually consider buying if not for that.

I's fairly obvious and was mentioned in the reveal, branding. You take that away and you more or less have A N Other car company.

[OM3RTA]

Originally Posted by mbanck

Don't forget that the E-Tron GT was co-developed with Porsche's Taycan which made it possible to look like that.

BMW doesn't have that, and on general principles, I think taking the G26 4GC to be their first sedan-like BEV made/makes a lot of sense.

Now whether you like the 4er or not is another matter, I agree...

Very true and very well said.

[MPSdriver]

Originally Posted by EVTee

All the new bmws look hideous. If you want to give me a big grille then make it more three dimensional like in the 3.0 CSL hommage concept. The flatness of these new grille designs is what makes it awful.

Agreed that the big grill needs to look like it has a certain level of depth to work (well) design wise.
The horizontal slats on the G82 give it more depth then the mesh on the G22 / G26.
G82 front > G22 / G26 front

[MoeMuc]

Originally Posted by Blindside_137

I wouldn't drive this if you paid me. Don't care if the E-tron GT or Model X are more expensive, they look GOOD. I would definitely have one as a commuter in the future.

I can't find a single flattering angle on this car.

Interesting though that you find the Model X is looking good. For me it looks like someone wasn't sure if he wanted to create a coupe, a van or an suv, but he also likes planes.
But again, that's a question of the personal preference and will always be arguable. But I think it's pointless, I tried my best to get the conversions in a more differentiated discussion

I remember how the G8x (the grills, ughh that body lines, it's too heavy, baah) bashing started and how it ended up in "OMG, the AWD will kill the M5, I need this, best looking M when seeing it in person"

[MoeMuc]

Originally Posted by EVTee

All the new bmws look hideous. If you want to give me a big grille then make it more three dimensional like in the 3.0 CSL hommage concept. The flatness of these new grille designs is what makes it awful.

That's a good point, I think you are absolutely right, it would probably look much more refined.
That really changed my view on the current (non M) grills, hmm, maybe we see something better in the LCI.

[Sjokosaus]

Originally Posted by Dog Face Pony Soldier

Agreed. Thanks for putting this contrast in stark relief. This image really shows why BMW is in serious trouble. The BMW looks like a minivan in comparison to the sexiness of the Audi.

Nice apples to oranges comparison, e-tron GT base price is 99k USD while the base price of the i4 is going to be sub 50k. Makes no sense comparing these cars, you get what you pay for.

[Sjokosaus]

Originally Posted by Sjokosaus

Nice apples to oranges comparison, e-tron GT base price is 99k USD while the base price of the i4 is going to be sub 50k. Makes no sense comparing these cars, you get what you pay for.

And not to mention it's a Porsche with Audi badges slapped on it, Audi had almost nothing to do with that car. Even less than Toyota had to do with the MK5 Supra.