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      09-21-2018, 10:54 AM   #925
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Rendered from the prototype.


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looks like elephant man and chick with bad lip injections...PASS
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      09-21-2018, 11:45 AM   #926
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The more I think about it, the more this just seems like the continuation of the 370Z. Looks like Nissan sold about 7k a year until the last two years. With Nissan leaving the market, I suppose Toyota could see similar numbers unless price is too high.

While GT86 sales had been higher, they've actually been right around 7k/yr the last two years.
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      09-21-2018, 12:07 PM   #927
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To each their own, but most people on other forums seem to like the latest rendering. Also a poll done by a 3rd party shows that more people would pick the Supra over the Z4.

As far as sales and production numbers goes, AutoNews has reported that Toyota will make less then 10,000 units a year.
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      09-21-2018, 12:37 PM   #928
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It seems Toyota called and raised BMW's bet in the 'contrived air scoops' category lol.
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      09-21-2018, 01:13 PM   #929
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What Needs to Happen for Toyota to Make a Stick-Shift Supra

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A manual transmission is possible for the new Supra—as is a cheaper four-cylinder engine and a lightweight trackday version.

The 2019 Toyota Supra promises to be a rewarding high-performance sports car. We just drove a preproduction prototype on the road and the track, and we came away very impressed. But the examples we drove were all equipped with an eight-speed automatic, the only transmission option that will be available when the new Supra hits dealerships. So we had to ask: What needs to happen for Toyota to add a manual transmission?

At the Supra launch event in Madrid, Spain, I caught up with Masayuki Kai, Assistant Chief Engineer on the Supra project. The first question I asked him was about the possibility of a stick-shift Supra.

"It purely depends on the reaction of the market," Kai told me. "If, for example, US customers are demanding strongly that Supra needs to be a manual-transmission car, then we will plan it. Technically, it's quite possible, of course. The problem is, do we invest money into it to make it happen? Because there are other options we could put the same money into. It just depends on the market feedback."

I asked Kai what kind of expense would be involved in making a manual-transmission Supra. "The most expensive, of course, would be to make it mass-production," he said. "That would cost quite a lot of money. But if we limit the volume, let's say a few hundred cars, then we can have less spent in tooling.

"It could be that we introduce it as a special edition, with a special color or special wheels or something. We can combine these into a package and sell it as a limited edition."

I asked Kai if such a limited edition might take the shape of a lightweight Supra model, something that's been hinted at before. "We have to introduce something new quite frequently, otherwise a car can lose interest," he replied. "There are many options here, really. Anything you might think of, we're already thinking about it."

The new Supra that will hit dealers sometime soon will be powered by a 3.0-liter single-turbo straight-six engine. But it seems like a cheaper four-cylinder model will follow—Chief Engineer Tetsuya Tada even says the four-cylinder is the one you should buy if you're planning a 2JZ swap.

The BMW Z4, which shares its six-cylinder engine and platform with the Supra, will soon offer a 2.0-liter turbo four-cylinder variant. I asked Kai if this engine might be the one to power a future four-banger Supra. "I assume so," he replied.

But all this talk had us wondering about things heading in the other direction: More horsepower. The six-cylinder Z4 makes 382 horsepower and 369 lb-ft. Toyota hasn't provided exact power figures for the Supra, but assures us that horsepower and torque will both exceed 300. Apparently there's even more headroom: A Toyota insider told me that the Supra platform is good for up to 500 horsepower, though some chassis upgrades, particularly to the brakes, would need to come along with it.
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      09-21-2018, 02:52 PM   #930
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To each their own, but most people on other forums seem to like the latest rendering. Also a poll done by a 3rd party shows that more people would pick the Supra over the Z4.

As far as sales and production numbers goes, AutoNews has reported that Toyota will make less then 10,000 units a year.
B/c there will not be 10k people looking to buy...
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      09-21-2018, 03:22 PM   #931
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I wish they would just release the rumored hybrid electric model right out of the gate. I want one, but I want the best.
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      09-21-2018, 03:47 PM   #932
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B/c there will not be 10k people looking to buy...
Well it is a niche product. Sales for the A80 weren't that high either.
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      09-21-2018, 06:01 PM   #933
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More colors thanks to Guff.









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      09-21-2018, 10:22 PM   #934
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Ugh... Toyota sucks! I thought the fact that MK IV and MK III Supras which have manuals sell for THOUSANDS more would make a manual Supra a sure thing. Stupid silly me I guess. My return to Toyota is stalled again.

Just call me a disgruntled former owner of 5 MK III Supras, 2 MK II MR2 Turbos, and 1 MK II Celica All Trac Turbo (I still have an ultra low mileage MK III Supra though).
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      09-22-2018, 11:16 AM   #935
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Looks like its fenders are pregnant.
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      09-22-2018, 02:02 PM   #936
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I just find it funny that Tada-san seems to care so much about the aftermarket tuning culture that surrounds the Supra based on his dialogue in the interviews, and also seems completely aware of the following the Supra has yet there’s no manual on offer, and it’ll be using an engine that’s in literally every other bmw....

Car looks good, though.

Inb4 manual is offered only on the 4 cylinder.
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      09-22-2018, 02:29 PM   #937
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More pics of the interior.






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      09-22-2018, 03:07 PM   #938
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Looks BMW from what can be seen....no surprise.

Will still have a drive of one when it is ever brought to market
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      09-22-2018, 08:06 PM   #939
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Some of the reviews did say some of the interior parts are not finalized yet and that were some items that were being used as a place holder. I'm assuming the shifter and iDrive dial? Another article said the shared parts are going to be buttons and door handles. So yes, there will probably be some part sharing, but at least it looks a little different vs the straight up rebadge 86/BRZ and Miata/124.
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      09-22-2018, 10:57 PM   #940
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Some of the reviews did say some of the interior parts are not finalized yet and that were some items that were being used as a place holder. I'm assuming the shifter and iDrive dial? Another article said the shared parts are going to be buttons and door handles. So yes, there will probably be some part sharing, but at least it looks a little different vs the straight up rebadge 86/BRZ and Miata/124.
If you compare it the the new Z4 interior, most everything is different. Some parts may be BMW sourced, but they do look different.
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      09-22-2018, 11:00 PM   #941
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      09-23-2018, 12:25 AM   #942
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The Legend is Back

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The Toyota Supra is back. Inspired by over 30 years of rich heritage, our new front-engined, rear-wheel drive sports car delivers our purest experience yet. With an exhilarating blend of power, balance and agility the new Toyota Supra offers enthusiasts the ultimate expression of driving pleasure.

Supra 900 Club
The lucky group of 900 European owners set to receive the new Toyota Supra in the first year of launch, will not only have our purest sports car at their fingertips, they’ll also be elevated into an exclusive group: Supra 900 Club.

As a Supra 900 Club member, you’ll have access to a range of special benefits, including exclusive content, personalised merchandise and a host of money-can’t-buy rewards and experiences in the build-up to the delivery of your new Toyota Supra.

Looking for a feeling like nothing else? Then this is the members-only club to join in 2019.

Focus on feeling
The development of the new Toyota Supra wasn’t driven purely by performance numbers or headline lap times, but a single-minded focus on the feeling you experience at the wheel.

Feel the power
Continuing the legacy laid down by previous generations, the new Toyota Supra’s front-mounted, in-line six-cylinder engine has all the ingredients to stimulate your senses. From exhilarating performance to a pulsating soundtrack, this world-class powerplant has one mission: to provide the ultimate in driving pleasure.

At home on road or track, our high-performance sports car delivers over 300bhp from its 3.0-litre engine. Through a twin-scroll turbocharger, high-precision, direct fuel injection and variable valve control, it grants drivers seamless power and instant response. As a result, the Toyota Supra charges to 100km/h in under five seconds and, thanks to the engine’s ultra-smooth nature, delivers precise control through the bends.

Feel the balance
Optimum weight distribution, lightweight construction, low centre of gravity: three elements that define a pure sports car – and areas which our engineers obsessed over in order to make the new Toyota Supra thrilling to drive.

This no-compromise attitude applied to a front-engined, rear-wheel drive layout ensures our two-seater coupé achieves a perfect 50:50 front-to-rear weight distribution. Due to an aluminium and steel composite frame that provides incredible rigidity and lightness, a low centre of gravity and short wheelbase, drivers can revel in confidence-inspiring stability, seemingly limitless grip and a neutral handling balance.

Feel the control
Thrilling, engaging and fun, the Toyota Supra has been designed to reward drivers of every ability. Under the skin, an electronically controlled active differential and Adaptive Variable Suspension (AVS) are at play, giving you exquisite control, precision and agility – whenever you want to play.

The electronically controlled active differential controls the amount of torque sent to each rear wheel. Drive force is distributed flexibly, so handling remains neutral throughout every stage of a corner, while hard braking and acceleration feel stable and precise. With the advanced AVS system delivering impressive comfort and control, the Toyota Supra puts a smile on drivers’ faces whether it’s a challenging racetrack or clear country road.

Born on the track
Produced by TOYOTA GAZOO Racing, the new Toyota Supra benefits from lessons learned in competition to make it a pure sports car that's in its element both on track, at the limit, or exploiting your favourite open road.

The golden ratio
By drawing on the highest level of motorsports engineering and design, the new, no-compromise Toyota Supra attains that perfect ‘golden ratio’ between wheelbase, track width and the height of its centre of gravity, for instant steering response and exceptional cornering performance.
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      09-23-2018, 12:27 PM   #944
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Looks nicer in the lighter colors! It will sell!
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Looks nicer in the lighter colors! It will sell!
I immediately noticed the same. Circus colors don't do any favors for the clown lines of this car. Lighter colors do help to mitigate all the bloating.
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BMW style buttons on the dash...Overall design looks pretty good
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