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      08-16-2021, 04:02 PM   #221
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Albon is doing all the Red Bull testing also during the winter stop . And he's doing a great job !
poor Albon.. still testing..
he should find a way to Racing Point in my opinion..
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Checo Perez has the same machinery at Red Bull !
In the beginning of this season Checo was performing not too bad with a copy&paste of MAX's setup . But the RB16-B was and still is really hard to drive with ,because Checo was having unpredictable oversteer in the high-speed corners !
And currently Checo is screwing it up with his own setup ..Because it didn't work .
All the rest is just BS !
This entire article is corroboration of what RIC stated years ago: They are developing the car to suit Max. This means it has a very narrow window of optimal operation and is suited for only one driver. This is a terrible management and engineering decision which has been made to get to their (now failed) objective of making Max the youngest WDC in the history of Formula One.

Further, the aforementioned bad management decision has a more serious financial implication: Not a single dollar/pound sterling is paid to win the WDC...all payments are made on WCC standings.
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About 2 weeks early on my self imposed hiatus, however this is apropos for your current adversary Chappers.
Mouth is open but no lights to be seen anywhere on that one
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This entire article is corroboration of what RIC stated years ago: They are developing the car to suit Max. This means it has a very narrow window of optimal operation and is suited for only one driver. This is a terrible management and engineering decision which has been made to get to their (now failed) objective of making Max the youngest WDC in the history of Formula One.

Further, the aforementioned bad management decision has a more serious financial implication: Not a single dollar/pound sterling is paid to win the WDC...all payments are made on WCC standings.
RIC's statement is BS as usual .

Check RIC's window now at McLaren !
I don't see his teeth anymore ...

I'm 100% sure . MAX would beat Norris to 5H1T in the McLaren !
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poor Albon.. still testing..
he should find a way to Racing Point in my opinion..
Too bad for Albon , he could have won 2 races at Red Bull .
But he was rammed twice by your Hammy . In the same way ,just like Hammy did with MAX at Silverstone !
Meanwhile over here we call that Hammy's dirty trick !
With 3 Red Bull cars and 3 HONDA PU's transformed in scrap in the last 2 races !

That's really great . Isn't it mate ?
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RIC's statement is BS as usual .

Check RIC's window now at McLaren !
I don't see his teeth anymore ...

I'm 100% sure . MAX would beat Norris to 5H1T in the McLaren !
No it isn't. Max's first win was stolen from RIC. And that's not all.
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No it isn't. Max's first win was stolen from RIC. And that's not all.
DR is like a lost lamb at McL, Norris is putting tyre tracks all over him he's had it time to replace and for him hand the loan car back. His humour will be missed tho.
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RB being attacked on all fronts but standing tall.
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This means it has a very narrow window of optimal operation and is suited for only one driver.
So?
Max is first driver.
And who says other teams don't do the same? I mean HAM seems to perform much better in the merc car than BOT. for years now.
And NOR is way faster than RIC.

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Further, the aforementioned bad management decision has a more serious financial implication: Not a single dollar/pound sterling is paid to win the WDC...all payments are made on WCC standings.
What the hell do you know about RB's financial position and goals....
I think the annual 500 million or whatever their budget is, is mainly paid by their main sponsor, Red Bull.
You have no idea what that sponsor likes to see most. If they covet a WCC more than a WDC.
You haven't been at that meeting...
I think the sponsor likes a WDC more. I think that they are very happy with Max.
Because no matter how you put it, before a GP, every media channel talks about Max, and that means in that regard media exposure for Red Bull (the sponsor).
And that's been going on for years.
I mean it's always about the duel between Max and Lewis. No one talks about Leclerc. Or Riccardo. Or Norris. Or Sainz. Or Bottas. Or Vettel.

It's always VER vs HAM.
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So?
Max is first driver.
And who says other teams don't do the same? I mean HAM seems to perform much better in the merc car than BOT. for years now.
And NOR is way faster than RIC.



What the hell do you know about RB's financial position and goals....
I think the annual 500 million or whatever their budget is, is mainly paid by their main sponsor, Red Bull.
You have no idea what that sponsor likes to see most. If they covet a WCC more than a WDC.
You haven't been at that meeting...
I think the sponsor likes a WDC more. I think that they are very happy with Max.
Because no matter how you put it, before a GP, every media channel talks about Max, and that means in that regard media exposure for Red Bull (the sponsor).
And that's been going on for years.
I mean it's always about the duel between Max and Lewis. No one talks about Leclerc. Or Riccardo. Or Norris. Or Sainz. Or Bottas. Or Vettel.

It's always VER vs HAM.
You are hilarious. So emotional.

RBR's goal was to make Max the youngest WDC. They compromised RIC to do this. They are pointing the car in his direction to the detriment of their overall WDC.

How long have you been watching F1?

Oh...I'm so glad you know so much about me, who I know, where I've been, the work I've done, the companies I've consulted, the people I've consulted in management, etc.

RBR has never won a championship without a car 2 seconds per lap faster than every car on the grid except for VETs first championship. They are a one-trick pony and it is highly unlikely that they have success with this methodology.
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You are hilarious. So emotional.

Oh...I'm so glad you know so much about me, who I know, where I've been, the work I've done, the companies I've consulted, the people I've consulted in management, etc.
You're not going to start again about your job at a pharmaceutical company are you?

The way I see it there are 2 kinds of people.
The ones who feel the need to brag about their career and the ones that don't feel that need....

But then again, I bet my life that you havent been at the meetings between RB the sponsor and RB the racing team where they talked about media exposure strategies.
And I don't need to know you for that.
So please stop bragging about you being the center of F1.
Cause you're not. And it makes you look pathetic.
You're just some guy at some forum, just like all of us.
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You're not going to start again about your job at a pharmaceutical company are you?

The way I see it there are 2 kinds of people.
The ones who feel the need to brag about their career and the ones that don't feel that need....

But then again, I bet my life that you havent been at the meetings between RB the sponsor and RB the racing team where they talked about media exposure strategies.
And I don't need to know you for that.
So please stop bragging about you being the center of F1.
Cause you're not. And it makes you look pathetic.
You're just some guy at some forum, just like all of us.
Read your writings. Your continued attempts to denigrate those who provide objective information for background isn't limited to your interactions with me. It's quite telling.

I won't trouble you further from your kneeling position at the alter of RBR and Max. Enjoy the rest of the season. I'm certain you'll find it quite enjoyable.
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those who provide objective information
You're not providing objective information.
First you think you can speak for someone who's dead and after that you pretend to know the ins and outs of RB's financial position.

That's not objective information. They're called wild guesses.
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You're not providing objective information.
First you think you can speak for someone who's dead and after that you pretend to know the ins and outs of RB's financial position.

That's not objective information. They're called wild guesses.
LOL!

Read the column payments.
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You're not providing objective information.
First you think you can speak for someone who's dead and after that you pretend to know the ins and outs of RB's financial position.

That's not objective information. They're called wild guesses.
Avoidable accidents with Merc more to blame for the Silverstone and Hungary ramming outrages.
I'm guessing of course but I could imagine Balestre if sitting as president now doing much more after a protest from the damaged teams than the current non entity that sits in that seat now.
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Be glad you MB & RB guys have something to argue about!!!

Ferrari fans be like
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You're not providing objective information.
First you think you can speak for someone who's dead and after that you pretend to know the ins and outs of RB's financial position.

That's not objective information. They're called wild guesses.
Did you read the column payments? It's there for all to see.
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Of course, but who says RB needs that last bit of prize money.
That's my whole point. I think the money from RB (the sponsor) is more leading.

Because you're now projecting one of 2 situations:
VER wins WDC but RB becomes second (or third) in WCC, or, VER doesn't win WDC but RB wins WCC
I think the leading question here is: what does RB the sponsor wants to see more eagerly.
Because I think RB the sponsor doesn't mind paying the difference (and then some) if they get what they want most if it really comes to that...

Anyhow, we don't hear Marko and Horner talking about seriously wanting to redevelop the car because only Max seems to be talented enough to drive it properly in order to win the WCC because otherwise they get into financial trouble. So apparently that's not a real issue. Sure they would like to see PER scoring full runner up points every time, but apparently not at the expense of VER becoming WDC because nothing what they say points otherwise.
And I think Marko and Horner are well versed in both the financial position of RBR and how much prize money they can expect or not. Better than you or me anyways.
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