[JonoNZ]

Your move BMW: Porsche Taycan Gets Apple Maps EV Routing In Apple CarPlay In US

https://insideevs.com/news/667774/po...apple-carplay/

Hopefully we get this before BMW abandon iDrive 8 completely.

[darylp310]

This is great. I’m sure it’s just a matter of time before we get this on BMW too. Looks like the programming APIs are all there already!

[JonoNZ]

I have noticed that the CarPlay UI shows a message when the BMW SoC hits 5%. So there is already some integration going on.

[darylp310]

Yes. I noticed some surprising BMW <-> Apple Maps integration this past weekend when I was testing out a low battery state. Here’s the message I was surprised to see.

[hugo_nz]

Originally Posted by JonoNZ

I have noticed that the CarPlay UI shows a message when the BMW SoC hits 5%. So there is already some integration going on.

Lol @jonoNZ living on the edge there driving to only 5%

[JonoNZ]

Originally Posted by hugo_nz

Lol @jonoNZ living on the edge there driving to only 5%

Haha, 5% is not a problem, was rather pleased with myself - that was after a 776km road trip and arrived home with 5%! There was a charge along the way though.

[VirtualGuitars]

Originally Posted by JonoNZ

Haha, 5% is not a problem, was rather pleased with myself - that was after a 776km road trip and arrived home with 5%! There was a charge along the way though.

My worst was 9% when I was coming home from the dealership 4 hours away after taking delivery. I learned a valuable lesson about halfway back realizing that I wasn’t going to make it home at my current pace. FYI, there are “ZERO” non-Tesla charging stations between Corpus Christi and Houston that aren’t level 2 chargers at a hotel. #LessonLearned

[ggalanis]

Originally Posted by VirtualGuitars

My worst was 9% when I was coming home from the dealership 4 hours away after taking delivery. I learned a valuable lesson about halfway back realizing that I wasn’t going to make it home at my current pace. FYI, there are “ZERO” non-Tesla charging stations between Corpus Christi and Houston that aren’t level 2 chargers at a hotel. #LessonLearned

To pass through some fast chargers you would have to take a longer route (37.5 miles longer than the Google maps route), so doable but not the most convenient and not useful if you realised it halfway through the "normal" route.

This is why I always tell people to actually think about the trips they are likely to take in their EV because you'd be surprised by how some areas are poorly served by fast charging infrastructure, like between your two cities in Texas. (Not directed at you since it was maybe a 1 time drive for you)

The real question is what what would the BMW nav have suggested (I looked at it in abrp) and what would say Apple Maps since that's the main topic of this thread. Even when infrastructure exists, it is all but useless if they can't be located and used by the nav system you prefer using. So does Apple maps provide a decent list of ev chargers? Will it finally be the one app that shows them all?

[grueber]

I used to be a Waze user >95% time before my iX. Now I use Apple Maps >95% because of how it integrates with my iX. Carplay is up most of the time while I drive my iX. The only times I use iDrive 8 is to turn on air recirculation, parking cam, or max battery charge.

I can see why the car makers are terrified of Apple and Google now.

[VirtualGuitars]

Originally Posted by ggalanis

To pass through some fast chargers you would have to take a longer route (37.5 miles longer than the Google maps route), so doable but not the most convenient and not useful if you realised it halfway through the "normal" route.

This is why I always tell people to actually think about the trips they are likely to take in their EV because you'd be surprised by how some areas are poorly served by fast charging infrastructure, like between your two cities in Texas. (Not directed at you since it was maybe a 1 time drive for you)

The real question is what what would the BMW nav have suggested (I looked at it in abrp) and what would say Apple Maps since that's the main topic of this thread. Even when infrastructure exists, it is all but useless if they can't be located and used by the nav system you prefer using. So does Apple maps provide a decent list of ev chargers? Will it finally be the one app that shows them all?

First EV, first trip. I had no idea WTF I was doing at the time. I left with plenty of range until I started driving 85+ mph. Then I had to slow down to make it back without charging.

[Paladin1]

Originally Posted by ggalanis

To pass through some fast chargers you would have to take a longer route (37.5 miles longer than the Google maps route), so doable but not the most convenient and not useful if you realised it halfway through the "normal" route.

This is why I always tell people to actually think about the trips they are likely to take in their EV because you'd be surprised by how some areas are poorly served by fast charging infrastructure, like between your two cities in Texas. (Not directed at you since it was maybe a 1 time drive for you)

The real question is what what would the BMW nav have suggested (I looked at it in abrp) and what would say Apple Maps since that's the main topic of this thread. Even when infrastructure exists, it is all but useless if they can't be located and used by the nav system you prefer using. So does Apple maps provide a decent list of ev chargers? Will it finally be the one app that shows them all?

Aircraft equivalent - many new pilots have discovered you can land in a place where you can't take off again. . A somewhat more problematic understanding than the realization that you don't have enough charge to get you home.

[paulfree17]

We just got back from a 600 mile road trip. I used Waze and some of the EV Mapping services through car-play and I also turned off Car-Play and used the native BMW Nav system. My question is can I keep car play enabled for Music, Messages, Phone etc but not use the Iphone Apps for Navigation? The CarPlay maps do not show in the HUD which I find very useful when navigating.


I always liked WAZE on my ICE cars but the routing it suggests for finding a charging station is horrible. It looks for the nearest charging station even if it is 20 miles in the opposite direction you are travelling.

[grueber]

Originally Posted by paulfree17

We just got back from a 600 mile road trip. I used Waze and some of the EV Mapping services through car-play and I also turned off Car-Play and used the native BMW Nav system. My question is can I keep car play enabled for Music, Messages, Phone etc but not use the Iphone Apps for Navigation? The CarPlay maps do not show in the HUD which I find very useful when navigating.


I always liked WAZE on my ICE cars but the routing it suggests for finding a charging station is horrible. It looks for the nearest charging station even if it is 20 miles in the opposite direction you are travelling.

Apple Maps is the only iOS nav where directions appear in the HUD. I used to be a diehard Waze user but have switched over to Apple Maps since I got my iX. Routing is pretty good and it will consider HOV and paid express lanes when routing.

Waze is still the best when it comes to speed trap alerts.

[darylp310]

Me too. I’ve switched from Waze to Apple Maps since getting my iX. It’s just too convenient to have the routing info in the HUD and the map itself available in the drivers side display!

[NoClosedDoors]

Originally Posted by JonoNZ

Haha, 5% is not a problem, was rather pleased with myself - that was after a 776km road trip and arrived home with 5%! There was a charge along the way though.

I’ve gotten down to 3%. Pretty darn impressed with the range on these cars.

[10dot]

Originally Posted by grueber

Apple Maps is the only iOS nav where directions appear in the HUD. I used to be a diehard Waze user but have switched over to Apple Maps since I got my iX. Routing is pretty good and it will consider HOV and paid express lanes when routing.

Waze is still the best when it comes to speed trap alerts.

One of my only outstanding questions was if car play nav worked with the HUD. I already prefer Apple Maps because of the haptic notifications on my watch so this is awesome news!!!

[VirtualGuitars]

Originally Posted by paulfree17

We just got back from a 600 mile road trip. I used Waze and some of the EV Mapping services through car-play and I also turned off Car-Play and used the native BMW Nav system. My question is can I keep car play enabled for Music, Messages, Phone etc but not use the Iphone Apps for Navigation? The CarPlay maps do not show in the HUD which I find very useful when navigating.

FYI, you don’t have to disable CarPlay to use the BMW Nav system. They can coexist.

[redhot47fla]

Originally Posted by VirtualGuitars

FYI, you don’t have to disable CarPlay to use the BMW Nav system. They can coexist.

I won't have my M60 for awhile, but this is very interesting to me, as I may want to enable CarPlay and BMW Nav. How, exactly, does one set that up?

Also, while I'm at it, if one remains completely in the native BMW environment, can one easily see and respond to incoming iMessages?

[VirtualGuitars]

Originally Posted by redhot47fla

I won't have my M60 for awhile, but this is very interesting to me, as I may want to enable CarPlay and BMW Nav. How, exactly, does one set that up?

Also, while I'm at it, if one remains completely in the native BMW environment, can one easily see and respond to incoming iMessages?

Remember the CarPlay it’s just an application running on top of iDrive. You can toggle between it and anything else whenever you want to. This is nothing new for BMW or any other manufacturer.

Sometimes I prefer using one map over the other. You don’t have to enable or disable anything.

[darylp310]

Originally Posted by redhot47fla

I won't have my M60 for awhile, but this is very interesting to me, as I may want to enable CarPlay and BMW Nav. How, exactly, does one set that up?

Also, while I'm at it, if one remains completely in the native BMW environment, can one easily see and respond to incoming iMessages?

Yes, as long as you aren't active running a navigation route via Apple Maps, Waze, or Google Maps, BMW Nav will remain the default navigation system. As soon as you start a navigation with any of those apps the system will flip over to CarPlay Nav.

On my way home today I was listening to podcasts, and responding to text messages via Carplay but was using BMW Nav to direct me to the nearest Electrify America charger. I do this all the time no problem.

[HybridLA]

Originally Posted by darylp310

Yes. I noticed some surprising BMW <-> Apple Maps integration this past weekend when I was testing out a low battery state. Here’s the message I was surprised to see.

I'd love to integrate Apple Maps with access to battery level. Any idea how you did it? Dying for a guide to set mine up.

Thanks.

[darylp310]

Originally Posted by HybridLA

I'd love to integrate Apple Maps with access to battery level. Any idea how you did it? Dying for a guide to set mine up.

Thanks.

Sadly I never saw much more than that. BMW needs to work harder to catch up with Ford and Porsche with their Apple Maps EV integration. We’ve all been patient for almost a year waiting for something!