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Really hate the grille and overall fussy front end but found myself really surprised at how attractive the rest of the car is. Wheels, side profile, etc. The front is just bad. There is no possible defense of it.
Very interesting interior materials though I do prefer physical buttons (and actually, so should everyone for safety reasons). The last thing we need is MORE disconnected non-drivers driving on the road. But yeah, definitely looking forward to more atypical/alternative materials in interiors, this car does it very well. I would definitely get this over a Model X or even an X4. Not sure I'd pick it up over an X5.
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Again, just anecdotal evidence but at my last visit to my local BMW dealer (which is a pretty large one) I was told that they have gotten a lot of interest in it, and so IMHO BMW should be optimistic from sales perspective... This is to extend their SUV buyers beyond the X5. I bet they will have a fully electrified standard X5 (ala e45) at some point... |
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From the R&T review:
"It’s not a grille, just a flat plastic panel, and one subjected to rocks and debris often enough that BMW’s engineers have had to coat it with a self-healing layer that repairs minor scratches in the presence of heat." Why don't they just say there's a PPF application to the front grill. The way they have it mentioned makes it sound like the front grill uses some ground-breaking tech. Wonder if BMW ///Marketing has been feeding this BS to the magazines. Other than that... love the interior. The exterior is weird but so was the i3. I would even consider one as a family hauler - but thinking we might be going X7 next.
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I can't imagine why people are still buying Tesla stock with cars like this, the eTron, and Mercedes EVs coming out. It's not a classic BMW design, but it looks better than the Model X to me, especially the interior.
4.4 0-60 is plenty fast for the average soccer mom. I'm not ready for an EV, but I think BMW did a nice job here. |
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Talking about the design languages,
I don't think BMW recent days done it too badly though, i don't get that people feeling fine with Teslas' inside out and those Porsche SUVs' and thinking BMWs' are ugly I just don't get it.
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the grill debate is tired and pointless just another tool for the get off my lawn crowd to complain bmw is not making E46s anymore
I found the most interesting comments to be on the interior, rather the lack of hate for the new idrive system which features the two bigger screens and less physical buttons. I was curious if there would be complaints around not being able to adjust the hvac/radio etc but nothing seemed to jump out at first glance for most of the reviewers. I think that bodes well for the implementation on the series cars |
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well, I think this looks better than Model X (though other than Model S I thought all the Tesla looked ugly...)
don't think I'm ready for electric just because NYC, a few years down the line with charging everywhere etc. I can definitely see myself getting the next gen of whatever might come |
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And no one is telling people not to buy a car because of its look. But they're perfectly entitled to give their opinion on if they think it's ugly or not. |
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Tesla sales will be fine. The Tesla Supercharger network is way ahead of what is available for the rest of EV's at the moment. I hope this changes in the next few years. It better change, given the government mandates that we all start driving EV's. |
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Each review I ve seen about the car makes me more and more impressed. First I think the car looks great, distinctly BMW icar. I love both the exterior and interior.
Every reviewer has been amazed at how quiet this car is, even at autobahn speeds. Sounds like it's pretty much S class level quietness. Then everyone has also had high praise about its ride quality. Arstechnical guy seems to say it's getting close to RR Ghost, if it's even somewhere close to that, the car is a total steal at 90k well equipped. You NEED an S class to be anywhere close to RR ride quality and this car would get you there for much less. The other impressive thing is range. Carwow guy drove the car on mountainous roads, town, and mostly autobahn for over 220 km and based on simple calculation indicated that the car would be able to drive a real world range or over 550km or 340 miles, at mostly actual highway speeds. That just totally destroys any existing electric SUV!! Basically you got a good looking car, amazing tech, great performance, best in class range, and above class refinement (ride quality and quietness)!?!?! Totally winner, a total steal at 90k. If this is what BMW can accomplish at this price range on an EV, then the future is definitely electric indeed! |
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In the U.K. it's almost insane to pick any EV other than T if your journey doesn't start and end at home charging.
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However, i kinda expected some of the initial reactions from the press to be along the lines of what we see in the threads covering the G20 LCI spyshots |
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I'd put my $100k elsewhere.
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I'd pick up Tesla just because of the infrastructure!
BMW is behind…..once they close the gap then I'll look at the grille next.
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Well, I'm on my third BEV right now, and I'm not looking at second class drivetrain again.
I've owned a 16' i3, a 20' i3 and now enjoys a iX3, the next natural choice was the G05 PHEV, but no more! I love the i3 style and cabin feel inside the iX, and after these reviews, which have been great, iX er the new king, and the X5 is steping down sadly.
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Promising reviews indeed! Beauty is subjective, but the qualities such as real-world range, quietness, smoothness, comfort, acceleration etc all point to high quality product. The people buying this are getting something positively good. It's not a loud M SUV, and isn't meant to be. If someone test drives this and an X5 back-to-back, I think they'll be putting their cash on the iX if the charging infrastructure where is available.
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