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      04-07-2024, 09:45 AM   #1
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How are you maxing range?

Seems like only way is have fan off, music off, navi off lol


This is horrific
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      04-07-2024, 09:56 AM   #2
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Proper tire pressure and lower speed. Most important for EVs really (AC off is also ok). 9 year EV only driver.

Anything else you expect?
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      04-07-2024, 10:00 AM   #3
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It is brand new so you may need to give it some time to start calculating and getting average estimates on driving behaviors. I honestly keep it in efficient mode at all times (less torque and easier on the tires). Not sure what % your battery is at but keep in mind if you are at 80% you are missing a chunk of the capacity anyway. I can't remember if you went for an M60 or an iX 50. M60 automatically loses battery range (M60 ~270mi vs iX50 ~305-310mi). The biggest impact will always be the A/C and heating of the vehicle. Other peripherals not so much maybe like 1-4% if that. If you are doing tons of stop-and-go (especially areas of 40-50mph with traffic lights) and on-ramps for highways where fast acceleration is needed spontaneously you probably are going to see a lower range. I try my best to always on the app start the heating of the vehicle before driving because you allow the car to get the battery warmed up before driving (MyBMW app and pressing the fan icon). Cold starting and driving off with a cold battery will have extreme losses in range.
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      04-07-2024, 10:02 AM   #4
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What battery percentage is that? I find that my range is no worse than on a gas equivalent. If it wasn’t for the scarcity of chargers along routes and the headache and fear of not having enough to get to one or have it be full and waste hours…
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      04-07-2024, 10:06 AM   #5
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160 miles? That’s probably at 50% charge?

I have never really found it worthwhile to disable things in an attempt to maximize. Sometimes on long stretches I will run in efficient mode.
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      04-07-2024, 10:33 AM   #6
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Seems like only way is have fan off, music off, navi off lol


This is horrific
The following things can help and ordered from most impact to less imho:
Reduce speed.
Turn off HVAC especially in cold weather or reduce its output by as much as you can tolerate.
Switch to the lightest wheel/tire combo with the best rolling resistance. These tires will likely be crap for spirited driving.
Everything else.

What do i actually suggest you do? Nothing. Drive how you normally would, enjoy the comfort of the car with the HVAC set how you like it and keep a set of decent looking wheels and good tires. The efficiency/range will fall where it does. If and only if you find yourself in a bad situation where you literally wouldn't make it to the next charger because you underestimated the energy usage for a leg of a trip, you should consider lowering your speed and fiddling with the HVAC. I personally wouldn't sacrifice my grip levels in summer or winter for better efficiency by buying super eco tires. You of course are free to do whatever you want.

I have the 22" wheels with the Pirelli tires for summer and 20" wheels with Nokian hakkapellita R5 SUV (non EV) for my winters. I drive approx 20% over the limit. Most highway cruising is at 120km/h (75mph) although I have been on drives were it was 130(80mph). My over generalized highway range rating is: 500+ kms in perfect 25C summer weather, 400kms in mild "cold" weather (-5C to +5C) and 300kms or less in very cold (-20C or less). So depending on the actual conditions, it will obviously vary within these approximate values.
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Efficient Mode, one passenger, no cargo, speed at or below 65mph, AC/heat full on, average temps (60F-ish or higher), 21" tires, ACC/DAPP engaged 80% of the time, D Adaptive, mixed highway/city, I routinely get 2.8 mi/kWh or better, best was 3.8. As noted, it might take awhile for your Guess-o-Meter to catch up to the way you drive, but 1) stomping on the throttle will dramatically reduce that calculation, 2) driving consistently over 70mph will reduce that calculation, 3) driving in cold weather (32F-ish and below) will reduce that calculation, 4) driving exclusively in Sport Mode (or any mode but Efficient) will reduce that calculation, 5) driving consistently short distances stop and go (<3-4 miles) will reduce that calculation. Turning off AC, fan, sound system, heated seats, heated steering wheel is just nibbling around the edges and will make little difference. Depends on what you want to spend your electrons on.
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      04-07-2024, 11:07 AM   #8
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... I routinely get 2.8 mi/kWh or better, best was 3.8. ...

Agree focus on the mi/kWh as that tells how efficiently the vehicle is being driven. Budden, were you made aware that the M60 manufacture estimated range is not the same as the iX50? I am just seeing some of your comments floating around and I think that may have not been entirely clarified by the dealership when acquiring.
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My experience owning and driving both for a couple of years is that the range of the iX50 and M60 (spouse's) is similar, similarly equipped and driven similarly. Which is obviously harder to do in the M60....
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      04-07-2024, 11:18 AM   #10
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This is how I achieve 3.5+ mi/kWh in my iX 50 w/ 22" wheels:
  1. Use efficient mode
  2. Use cruise control to accelerate whenever possible
  3. Do not exceed the speed limit
  4. If accelerating manually, keep peak power output under 25%
  5. Manually turn off AC and set temp to lowest setting, set air recirc to fresh, if temps outside are nice. No need to run HVAC.
  6. Keep your tires properly inflated to the recommend pressures shown in your door jamb
  7. Drive it like it was a Prius
Driving this efficiently in such a large, heavy car with large tires requires a little effort but it pays off. For me, the fun of driving isn't raw speed and acceleration. It's being in a comfortable, quiet environment that is stress-free. I find when I drive slower I feel calmer. The stresses of the day melt away. As others pass me I can see how crazy they drive while I'm happy they took their crazy with them and are now off in the distance.

Funny thing is, when I drive at the limit I still catch up to the people passing me at 80 MPH because, you know, traffic.

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      04-07-2024, 11:27 AM   #11
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This is how I achieve 3.5+ mi/kWh in my iX 50 w/ 22" wheels:
  1. Use efficient mode
  2. Use cruise control to accelerate whenever possible
  3. Do not exceed the speed limit
  4. If accelerating manually, keep peak power output under 25%
  5. Manually turn off AC and set temp to lowest setting, set air recirc to fresh, if temps outside are nice. No need to run HVAC.
  6. Keep your tires properly inflated to the recommend pressures shown in your door jamb
  7. Drive it like it was a Prius
I appreciate your commitment, but I would never drive it within those constraints unless I was desperate for a charge, and frankly won’t allow myself to get into that type of situation.

For me, set the HVAC where I’m comfortable and ACC set to typical traffic flow mph; generally around 80 mph which is about 78 mph actual.

I don’t consider my M60 to be an ‘economy’ car; far from it and will never drive it with that mindset. I do however use ‘Efficiency’ mode on the highway very often as the decrease in ‘responsiveness’ isn’t an issue in steady state conditions.

YMMV, obviously.
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      04-07-2024, 11:39 AM   #12
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I appreciate your commitment, but I would never drive it within those constraints unless I was desperate for a charge, and frankly won’t allow myself to get into that type of situation.

For me, set the HVAC where I’m comfortable and ACC set to typical traffic flow mph; generally around 80 mph which is about 78 mph actual.

I don’t consider my M60 to be an ‘economy’ car; far from it and will never drive it with that mindset. I do however use ‘Efficiency’ mode on the highway very often as the decrease in ‘responsiveness’ isn’t an issue in steady state conditions.

YMMV, obviously.
Of course, everyone has different preferences on how they drive. The original question posted at the top was how do we max our efficiency. This is how I maximize my efficiency, using all or some of the things listed. Good tips to follow if you are short on range and need to squeeze the most out of a remaining charge.

I tell folks to drive their EVs like they stole them because they are so much fun to drive! With EVs we get the best of both worlds—performance and efficiency, when we need/want it.

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I’m in the do nothing camp and get ~270 miles in winter and ~310 in summer. On long trips I might use efficient mode but not on a daily basis. Hills will also sap range but there is little you can do about that in most cases other than perhaps picking a route that has fewer ups and downs.
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      04-07-2024, 01:50 PM   #14
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I don’t drive for efficency personally, but did notice in the heating settings you can lock rear heating / ventilation to off. Not sure how much of a saving it would be, but probably makes sense if you don’t have back seat passengers for the majority of trips.
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      04-07-2024, 01:59 PM   #15
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How are you maxing range?
I’m not. Range has no effect on the vast majority of my driving. I simply recharge at home as needed and thoroughly enjoy the car.

If I were going on a road trip where extending range was important, I would simply drive the speed limit, and that is all.
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I do nothing special except drive in efficient mode most of the time and easily get 300 mile range on a full charge, but the temps are rarely below 40 here. I don’t floor it a lot, but I also don’t drive it like a Prius.
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      04-07-2024, 05:12 PM   #17
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I don’t drive for efficency personally, but did notice in the heating settings you can lock rear heating / ventilation to off. Not sure how much of a saving it would be, but probably makes sense if you don’t have back seat passengers for the majority of trips.
This is actually something useful, and something I did almost all of the time in my ‘19 etron. Not really needed to heat/cool the rear of the cabin when there’s no one back there. Haven’t done it with the iX as the range ‘bump’ is huge compared to the etron, and I no longer even bother to plug in every night anymore.
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This is actually something useful, and something I did almost all of the time in my ‘19 etron. Not really needed to heat/cool the rear of the cabin when there’s no one back there. Haven’t done it with the iX as the range ‘bump’ is huge compared to the etron, and I no longer even bother to plug in every night anymore.
Except for the strange reason on my car it randomly activates back to on 🤷*♂️
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IX40 here. Range is a joke 180 miles at zero temperature 160 in the motorway at 80mph so need charge every 140 miles. Despite this I love the car. The battery and race not much. IX 50/m60 was too dear for the range/performance but I wish I had those if it was at the 40's price.
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This was my range when i had my i4 m50, this was after a road trip around the west coast then charging it to 100%.

It always like this with EV's, as long as its kept around a reasonable kwh/100 km for EU version it will most certainly achieve its given range.
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Range on the M60 seems kinda horrible.

Got the car Friday at 2pm at 94% charge
Drove most of the day enjoying it in different modes and yes a few times flooring it. Mostly driving in personal mode.
Saturday when it was at 40% I decided to try my first public charge just to get a hang of it when battery is decent.

Charged to 80%. By this morning car was at 41%

I checked the odometer and I got about 200 miles in 3 days of driving and learning the car.

So 200 miles of actual driving with charge going from 94% to 40% to 80% back to 41% that seems pretty weak for range.
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Range on the M60 seems kinda horrible...So 200 miles of actual driving with charge going from 94% to 40% to 80% back to 41% that seems pretty weak for range.
My 02¢: Don't worry about range and efficiency for a bit. My anecdotal observation is that people experience low efficiency for the first month or two of BEV ownership. You just got your hands on a car with 800 lb-ft of torque, and that is intoxicating.

Looking at your scenario of net 93% of the battery (98 kWh) for 200 miles, you got around 2.0 miles/kWh. In my experience, this is about right for the initial BEV enjoyment.
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