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      12-06-2020, 01:49 PM   #551
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Merc save the 2021 season...Please!

Buyout Bottas NOW and give Russel that seat.
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Please tell me you’re not a lawyer �� resting your case like this won’t make you a living.
What racecraft will get him out of a puncture? Or out of a put crew mess up?
He has a commanding lead just like Hamilton. He raced really well in traffic. The only thing is that he didn’tdeny a pitstop like Hamilton would’ve done. That’s all!

And remember who was in second place? The guy racing the same car for a whole season.

What happened today proved how much the car’s performance affects the grid standings. If it was spec racing you’ll see Hamilton on the podium less frequently (along with other podium holders).
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! When did you start watching racing?!?!! Here is the record the last time HAM was in a SPEC series. WTF are you talking about?!?!!
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      12-06-2020, 01:51 PM   #553
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No worries. I know logical discourse is not a strong suite of VER fans. It would make it logically impossible to justify one’s own views.

But not hard feelings from my side either.
No sir! It’s a sport and sportsmanship is of the essence. But I’m not a Verstappen fan. I actually don’t like him. But I do appreciate his talent.
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Did anyone not listen to Verstappens onboard audio of his throttle?
He stays on the throttle way to long, guaranteeing him a trip straight to the scene of his accident.
Bit of a rookie mistake.
Completely agree, rematches it many times and can’t figure out why he kept his foot in it right into the wall. If he had hammered the brakes after the corner he would have still been racing.
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      12-06-2020, 01:52 PM   #555
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      12-06-2020, 01:54 PM   #556
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Completely agree, rematches it many times and can’t figure out why he kept his foot in it right into the wall. If he had hammered the brakes after the corner he would have still been racing.
So he doesn’t get beached. Basic procedure. keep the momentum going and figure out steering later.
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Unfortunate for Russell. He did absolutely everything right in regards to on-track performance and it came down to a puncture that he could not control.

Everything else, outside of his control and as a stand-in driver with a car you're not familiar with, you're going to lean on your pit wall and crew.

Bottas on the other hand...
I am a Merc and Lewis fan. It is obvious a lot of drivers can win in that car. Bottas is wasting that seat away, get him out of that ride.

Fans need a competition next season.
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MAX screwed no one mate . Few moments before the crash , he was sandwiched by the Mercs and had brake like a mad man .
After that the red French MAF came along in his kamikaze torpedo !

Fault was LeCrash and Perez ..
Rewatch the footage after the corner and listen, he kept his foot in it and drove it into the gravel.

He drove smart braking early into the corner, unusual for him as he would normally go late, but after the corner he should have been on the left foot instead of the right.
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I am a Merc and Lewis fan. It is obvious a lot of drivers can win in that car. Bottas is wasting that seat away, get him out of that ride.

Fans need a competition next season.
Not obvious to a lot of people - the W11 is superior to the rest of the field, it's not even close, and plays more of a role than the driver IMO than what people are giving credit for. To sustain success, you need a driver with the x-factors which HAM clearly has.

I was a fan of Bottas but this season gives anyone enough reason for pause. Yes he has had crap luck but RUS was clearly the better driver from start to finish despite both of them finishing just inside the top 10.
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Agree it was LeClair to blame for the mess at the start. Felt REALLY Bad for Russell who deserved to win that race. Bottas has to be worried. Very worried.
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Not obvious to a lot of people - the W11 is superior to the rest of the field, it's not even close, and plays more of a role than the driver IMO than what people are giving credit for. To sustain success, you need a driver with the x-factors which HAM clearly has.

I was a fan of Bottas but this season gives anyone enough reason for pause. Yes he has had crap luck but RUS was clearly the better driver from start to finish despite both of them finishing just inside the top 10.
Even Lewis has his off race weekends and Bottas is never there to capitalize. Hell Lewis is out with COVID and Bottas still couldn’t take advantage. Give Russel the opportunity to fight for wins and maybe we get another Nico/Lewis season.
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Lecrunchie has got a 3 place grid drop in last race for single handedly ruining the Sakhir GP.
Binotto should sack this useless driver.
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such a great race actionwise.. but after Germany worst pit work ever for Merc' which is a human factor..

felt so bad for Russell especially seeing him kinda crying after the race finishes while he drives back to pits...

but Perez.. he just deserved it, coming back to front after being last is a superb job even if Mercs were in trouble.. and i believe there is nothing more he should show that he deserves a seat.. after 10 years of waiting for such a thing.. its easier to say than done.. bursting into tears tells the whole story..

Leclerc's crash i dont think its all Leclerc's fault.. he may misjudged the braking point but at the same time Perez was aware that he was approaching that corner with few cars very close behind but took the corner like there is no one.. luckily his car didnt have a serious damage.. Lec can take the full responsibility.. cause he has a strong character..

first i thought Max caught by the accident but obviously he crashed on his own again.. again? hmmm..

and for Lewis part..

Russell is a very talented driver, no hesitation.. he delivered much more than he needed to.. but judging the whole picture by one race and track is a very narrow-minded approach.. what makes Lewis GOAT is delivering almost perfection each time he is on track.. CONSISTENCY is the key here OVER THE YEARS.. a lot of people is not even that consistent in their normal life aside from racing or anything professional..

and when you check the history of F1 you dont see such a thing that often at all.. everything in absolute harmony in recent years.. you dont be a champion by being best on 1-2 track or having lack of performance here and there..

so again, if you dont like Lewis you dont have to of course but it doesnt mean it should turn into something like a sitcom episode..

recent few races were horrible for Bottas.. i dont think he s feeling good about himself and his performance today on track against 3 days old at the same car Russell.. actually if Russell would win this race he was already in trouble but the problem is he did already without winning it.. i dont hate Bottas but this race will draw some more negative attention on him which is the last thing he needs at the moment..
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Sure, but RUS being the stand-in driver isn't in the position to really manage anything - he was given used tires he has no data about so at that point, he's not worrying about tire preservation to try to prevent a tire puncture. This was on Mercedes pit team period.

Not taking anything away from HAM because driver involvement still counts but you're in denial if you don't think the W11 plays a huge part as RUS clearly shown for most of that race. RUS outraced BOT in this race and if it wasn't for the poor pit call and puncture, RUS finishes 1st or a podium finish at a minimum.
Fully agree, BOT underperformed in a epic way. W11 is fast, that's for sure. It takes a fast driver AND a fast car to finish on the podium. Neither merc driver did today, though they both had a fast car.

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No sir! It’s a sport and sportsmanship is of the essence. But I’m not a Verstappen fan. I actually don’t like him. But I do appreciate his talent.
Good, I was worried. Neither am I. And I give HAM credit for sportsmanship (i.e. Apologizing for his mistakes, and when he ran someone of the road), as well as Racecraft. He complains on the radio a lot, but in the end he ends up at the top spot 4/5 times, or more. I'm pretty sure HAM would have taken the hard tires, and made it a 1 pit strategy. Perhaps 2 with the debris and possible puncture. THIS is how races are won.

Today, neither Merc pilot was even close to the podium. So respect where it is due.
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Even Lewis has his off race weekends and Bottas is never there to capitalize. Hell Lewis is out with COVID and Bottas still couldn’t take advantage. Give Russel the opportunity to fight for wins and maybe we get another Nico/Lewis season.
Won't happen ...Toto said it was like Star Wars .
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Lecrunchie has got a 3 place grid drop in last race for single handedly ruining the Sakhir GP.
Binotto should sack this useless driver.
Well my friend . That's the best news of the season !
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Won't happen ...Toto said it was like Star Wars .
Then snowflake Toto should leave if he doesn't want to promote exciting F1 action. It's HE who is killing F1 with MIB processions together with a BRAIN DEAD Fia: walking dead trup Todt.
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Then snowflake Toto should leave if he doesn't want to promote exciting F1 action. It's HE who is killing F1 with MIB processions together with a BRAIN DEAD Fia: walking dead trup Todt.
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