[Murph335]

Originally Posted by Longboarder

lol don't pick on the poor troll. He doesn't realize that the average i8 owner can buy whatever car they want and also has other exotics. But he is on point that when we want to go to clubs and show off at the valet we take the i8, which isn't our most expensive car but it is the coolest looking.

Lots of assumptions here on income levels and owning multiple exotics. Not going there. Its not a money convo. "In its class" that the i8 competes in is very competitive. $150k range brings up many good looking, great sounding, class leading, innovative, high performance options!

To further clarify I am definitely NOT pointing out you can go faster for cheaper.


The point is the i8 is confused like the amphibious cars pf the past. Not great boats, and not a great cars. Doesn't do anything well but to some it looks great! (Choice).

Hybrids will be an obsolete platform very soon. the i3 and i8 power-terrain really just doesn't make much sense in the market. It was an odd decision by bmw, and now every brand is doing hybrids. Why? Just go all battery and get some great benefits like carpool lanes.

So lets talk about hybrid exotics... well... they are all insane fast. The i8 just isnt.


You buy an i8 for the look and "choice" as mentioned above. I get it. People like what they like, doesnt have to be fast, or make any sense at all aka barrett jackson, HA!.


If bmw released this car all battery with a decent range it would be a ground breaking innovation leader, and well deserved for all the press.

Remember clarksons comment about the R8?


Followed longboarder for a while now and watched your sc M3 at the airstrip, the 997tt is equally impressive. Modded 997tt is a car I've followed since new (innovative class leader and incredible performance)

[Barago]

Originally Posted by Murph335

Lots of assumptions here on income levels and owning multiple exotics. Not going there. Its not a money convo. "In its class" that the i8 competes in is very competitive. $150k range brings up many good looking, great sounding, class leading, innovative, high performance options!

To further clarify I am definitely NOT pointing out you can go faster for cheaper.


The point is the i8 is confused like the amphibious cars pf the past. Not great boats, and not a great cars. Doesn't do anything well but to some it looks great! (Choice).

Hybrids will be an obsolete platform very soon. the i3 and i8 power-terrain really just doesn't make much sense in the market. It was an odd decision by bmw, and now every brand is doing hybrids. Why? Just go all battery and get some great benefits like carpool lanes.

So lets talk about hybrid exotics... well... they are all insane fast. The i8 just isnt.


You buy an i8 for the look and "choice" as mentioned above. I get it. People like what they like, doesnt have to be fast, or make any sense at all aka barrett jackson, HA!.


If bmw released this car all battery with a decent range it would be a ground breaking innovation leader, and well deserved for all the press.

Remember clarksons comment about the R8?


Followed longboarder for a while now and watched your sc M3 at the airstrip, the 997tt is equally impressive. Modded 997tt is a car I've followed since new (innovative class leader and incredible performance)

It's already been said that most i8 owners can indeed afford a R8 or something in that price range which is "faster" etc- but the key point here is that the i8 makes these particular owners happy. This is the case even if it's not full electric or faster than all the other cars in its segment.

I don't get your rant here. If you dislike the i8 so much, why exactly are you reading and posting in the i8 forum?

Gutting 335i's and making them faster than M3's is a hobby some people enjoy- others enjoy cool new Halo-cars from brands like BMW. Enough of this BS.

[Aye-eight]

Originally Posted by Murph335

Lots of assumptions here on income levels and owning multiple exotics. Not going there. Its not a money convo. "In its class" that the i8 competes in is very competitive. $150k range brings up many good looking, great sounding, class leading, innovative, high performance options!

To further clarify I am definitely NOT pointing out you can go faster for cheaper.


The point is the i8 is confused like the amphibious cars pf the past. Not great boats, and not a great cars. Doesn't do anything well but to some it looks great! (Choice).

Hybrids will be an obsolete platform very soon. the i3 and i8 power-terrain really just doesn't make much sense in the market. It was an odd decision by bmw, and now every brand is doing hybrids. Why? Just go all battery and get some great benefits like carpool lanes.

So lets talk about hybrid exotics... well... they are all insane fast. The i8 just isnt.


You buy an i8 for the look and "choice" as mentioned above. I get it. People like what they like, doesnt have to be fast, or make any sense at all aka barrett jackson, HA!.


If bmw released this car all battery with a decent range it would be a ground breaking innovation leader, and well deserved for all the press.

Remember clarksons comment about the R8?


Followed longboarder for a while now and watched your sc M3 at the airstrip, the 997tt is equally impressive. Modded 997tt is a car I've followed since new (innovative class leader and incredible performance)

Remember Clarkson's choice at the end of the M3 / i8 comparison?

Expanding on your previous post doesn't give it any more sense, in my eyes.

The i8 doesn't do anything well? How much time have you spent in one? I've owned mine for over two years, and so far have not encountered a car that was and actually wanted to be faster. I don't get people who think everyday driving is a road race, every day, every traffic light, every on-ramp. The i8 is plenty fast. You don't have to carry a 6L V10 around just in case you come across a 911 Turbo who also wants to race. Just like you don't have to carry around a gun on the off chance that you get mugged (and it may still be a bad idea then). But I realize not everybody gets that.

Secondly, none of the other $150k cars will give you 60+ mpg average.

Thridly, those "insanely fast" hybrid exotics are between five and seven times more expensive than the i8. Different league altogether. Would I like to have a 918 Spyder? Sure. Do I think it's worth $700k? Nope.

Fourthly, all-electric will come, no doubt. But it will be mainstream stuff only once they've fixed the energy density and charging time issues. Until then, hybrid is the smartest way to go, imho. But of course, in your view, "every brand doing hybrids" as you say, must be wrong and you're right.

[YWGT3]

Originally Posted by Murph335

Lots of assumptions here on income levels and owning multiple exotics. Not going there. Its not a money convo. "In its class" that the i8 competes in is very competitive. $150k range brings up many good looking, great sounding, class leading, innovative, high performance options!

To further clarify I am definitely NOT pointing out you can go faster for cheaper.


The point is the i8 is confused like the amphibious cars pf the past. Not great boats, and not a great cars. Doesn't do anything well but to some it looks great! (Choice).

Hybrids will be an obsolete platform very soon. the i3 and i8 power-terrain really just doesn't make much sense in the market. It was an odd decision by bmw, and now every brand is doing hybrids. Why? Just go all battery and get some great benefits like carpool lanes.

So lets talk about hybrid exotics... well... they are all insane fast. The i8 just isnt.


You buy an i8 for the look and "choice" as mentioned above. I get it. People like what they like, doesnt have to be fast, or make any sense at all aka barrett jackson, HA!.


If bmw released this car all battery with a decent range it would be a ground breaking innovation leader, and well deserved for all the press.

Remember clarksons comment about the R8?


Followed longboarder for a while now and watched your sc M3 at the airstrip, the 997tt is equally impressive. Modded 997tt is a car I've followed since new (innovative class leader and incredible performance)

Originally Posted by Aye-eight

Remember Clarkson's choice at the end of the M3 / i8 comparison?

Expanding on your previous post doesn't give it any more sense, in my eyes.

The i8 doesn't do anything well? How much time have you spent in one? I've owned mine for over two years, and so far have not encountered a car that was and actually wanted to be faster. I don't get people who think everyday driving is a road race, every day, every traffic light, every on-ramp. The i8 is plenty fast. You don't have to carry a 6L V10 around just in case you come across a 911 Turbo who also wants to race. Just like you don't have to carry around a gun on the off chance that you get mugged (and it may still be a bad idea then). But I realize not everybody gets that.

Secondly, none of the other $150k cars will give you 60+ mpg average.

Thridly, those "insanely fast" hybrid exotics are between five and seven times more expensive than the i8. Different league altogether. Would I like to have a 918 Spyder? Sure. Do I think it's worth $700k? Nope.

Fourthly, all-electric will come, no doubt. But it will be mainstream stuff only once they've fixed the energy density and charging time issues. Until then, hybrid is the smartest way to go, imho. But of course, in your view, "every brand doing hybrids" as you say, must be wrong and you're right.

Have to agree with Aye-Eight. Coming from a Porsche 911T, Gallardo, F430, the i8 happens to be the better car when it comes to public street driving. Whereas in its current configuration, the i8 is not best suited for track competition.

To offer you a broader perspective on individual choices, I selected the i8 over the R8 5.2, AMG GT, and Aston Martin Vanquish. For me, the i8 provides an amalgamation of the aforementioned choices, while offering a departure from the traditional ICE. The i8, with its low center of gravity exotic sports car stance and GT ride, delivers an absurdly high mpg, all the while zipping me 0-60 in 3.9-4.0 seconds (private track radar test runs).

While I hear you, to analogies the i8 with the amphibious car concept is more than a bit of a stretch and as Longboarder mentioned, comes across as trolling i8 owners.

[Murph335]

Originally Posted by YWGT3

Have to agree with Aye-Eight. Coming from a Porsche 911T, Gallardo, F430, the i8 happens to be the better car when it comes to public street driving. Whereas in its current configuration, the i8 is not best suited for track competition.

To offer you a broader perspective on individual choices, I selected the i8 over the R8 5.2, AMG GT, and Aston Martin Vanquish. For me, the i8 provides an amalgamation of the aforementioned choices, while offering a departure from the traditional ICE. The i8, with its low center of gravity exotic sports car stance and GT ride, delivers an absurdly high mpg, all the while zipping me 0-60 in 3.9-4.0 seconds (private track radar test runs).

While I hear you, to analogies the i8 with the amphibious car concept is more than a bit of a stretch and as Longboarder mentioned, comes across as trolling i8 owners.

That is an extremely interesting choice, and I can see how its more manageable on the street, and probably not as much anxiety around a rock chip as the others you've owned.

Aye-eight made comment about mpg. I just don't see the ROI there given these probably aren't driven 18k miles yr, and the roads, highways are full of body damage obstacles. It was tough to spend even $150/mo in gas when I tried to justify an all electric total cost of ownership; I ended up just doing it anyway.



Ill agree To the above point its about choice. Good podcast like car convo!

[Twitch Massacre]

I was in the wrong post here's where the giggles are at. Tell us lost boys more Peter Pan!

[Louv]

Only 23 sold in April 2017 (in the US)

[stressdoc]

And a flood of 2017s with new colors hitting the market. I like the protonic dark silver as much as Sophisto; waffling between ED 2018, used 2015, discounted new 2017.

[Mr.SugarSkulls]

Originally Posted by stressdoc

And a flood of 2017s with new colors hitting the market. I like the protonic dark silver as much as Sophisto; waffling between ED 2018, used 2015, discounted new 2017.

Hopefully some good deals come the summer

[stressdoc]

Originally Posted by Mr.SugarSkulls

Hopefully some good deals come the summer

the deals will have to be really good on leftover 2017s to sell in competition with the revamped 2018s...

[MalibuBimmer]

How revamped?

[Mr.SugarSkulls]

Originally Posted by stressdoc

the deals will have to be really good on leftover 2017s to sell in competition with the revamped 2018s...

I'm thinking the same. There are a ton of protonic reds right now (pretty much all of them) and the frozen black i8s just hit the west coast-

[stressdoc]

My fav is the new protonic dark silver w dark grey interior.
I know it is petty and self-deceptive, but I prefer the less showy colors, thinking that I won't be labeled as an attention-seeker. Ha.

[Louv]

July 2017 numbers: 55 sold.

[rich644]

Originally Posted by Louv

July 2017 numbers: 55 sold.

While that's still pretty miniscule volume, it's more than double June's numbers. Either the dealers are discounting inventory or maybe they are turning the corner.

(I have been offered $12,000 off sticker)

[MrBreezenovel]

These days I like cars that most people don't. To me the i8 (like my 4C and the Evora 400 I am buying) is unique and you have to get the car to truly appreciate it. There are those who get it and those who do not, nothing wrong with that. For those like me who do, enjoy.

[ericsi]

Originally Posted by MrBreezenovel

These days I like cars that most people don't. To me the i8 (like my 4C and the Evora 400 I am buying) is unique and you have to get the car to truly appreciate it. There are those who get it and those who do not, nothing wrong with that. For those like me who do, enjoy.

I seem to fall in this category as well. The true collectible nowadays tend to be the cars that were not very popular when new such as the 964rs. The least i8 they produce the better!

[Louv]

update:

July 2018 US sales numbers = 72
Total i8 vehicles sold in the US: 5258

[Mr.SugarSkulls]

Originally Posted by Louv

update:

July 2018 US sales numbers = 72
Total i8 vehicles sold in the US: 5258

I mean...they sure are hidden.

I feel like those numbers are inflated. But who knows- maybe LA isn't an i8 market after all?

[Louv]

Originally Posted by Mr.SugarSkulls

I mean...they sure are hidden.

I feel like those numbers are inflated. But who knows- maybe LA isn't an i8 market after all?

I feel like I'm finally seeing them out in the wild. Being driven, not just at Cars&Coffee or car shows.

But, it's always felt like most buyers just keep them garaged. Maybe drive occasionally.

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by Carac

I think they counted cars sitting on the lot that had been there so long the warranty had to go "in service" as sales, padding the numbers. (After sitting for long enough an unsold car's warranty goes "in service" because they don't want to sell a car "new" after a year+ on the lot and only have it's warranty begin at the time of sale) Happened with a couple other models.

Originally Posted by YWGT3

Have to agree with Aye-Eight. Coming from a Porsche 911T, Gallardo, F430, the i8 happens to be the better car when it comes to public street driving. Whereas in its current configuration, the i8 is not best suited for track competition.

To offer you a broader perspective on individual choices, I selected the i8 over the R8 5.2, AMG GT, and Aston Martin Vanquish. For me, the i8 provides an amalgamation of the aforementioned choices, while offering a departure from the traditional ICE. The i8, with its low center of gravity exotic sports car stance and GT ride, delivers an absurdly high mpg, all the while zipping me 0-60 in 3.9-4.0 seconds (private track radar test runs).

While I hear you, to analogies the i8 with the amphibious car concept is more than a bit of a stretch and as Longboarder mentioned, comes across as trolling i8 owners.

Do you still have it?

[YWGT3]

Originally Posted by Jason B

Do you still have it?

Still have it and still enjoying it.