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      02-22-2019, 02:40 PM   #45
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and this is why i dont watch the NFL anymore and I love football.....

here is my rant. krafts highly paid legal team will twist this a million ways from sunday and he will get off (no pun intended) with a fine and maybe community service. bottom line, they have him on video. he did it. period. personally, i don't care who blows him but the nfl will say they are going to let the legal system take its course and then say they are satisfied with the legal process and they will do nothing to him. again, reference video evidence.

so after all that happens, how in god's name can roger goddell or any of the owners stand up and say they expect high standards of behavior etc when they are guilty themselves. say what you want, mr kapernick got crucified (and later paid) for his sideline kneeling but its ok to hire guys back after a brief suspension for beating their gf or wife. really, does that make sense??

they players are not whats wrong with the nfl, it is clearly the owners and nfl leadership. people do what you allow them to do.

if i recall, jerry jones was on film or pics with some ladies in his hotel room in pictures that most wifes would never accept. that one got swept under the rug by the nfl as well.

ok, rant over.
i dont think kraft's head should be put in a spike.

but the nfl is the most corrupt discipline system i seant in my life
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Its a psuedonym for pedophilia networks, whenevr you hear 'human trafficking' in the news, they are talking about pedophiles networks being taken down

Liberals should get down on their bony knees and thank God that Trump is out here trying to save the kids
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Adam Schefter said on ESPN that "Kraft isn't the most famous person - there's someone else whose name hasn't surfaced yet who's better known than Kraft. "I'm also told that Robert Kraft is not the biggest name involved down there in South Florida," Schefter said.

There's no word on who the biggest name is, and it's unclear why the authorities in Florida would name Kraft publicly but not name this bigger name. But it appears that this story is going to get significant traction, and not go away quietly as Kraft would surely prefer."

The plot thickens....
I saw that, but I'm trying to think who would be a bigger name than Ol' Krafty? It's a short list, that's for sure.
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Reading the ESPN article, it seems like police hid secret cameras in the facility to catch people during the act.

Is that legal if they didn't have the facilities permission? Will a court accept that as evidence?
The court likely issued the order. Something like that would need a judge's approval. Likely they had probable cause and got a judge to sign off on cameras, wire taps, and the likes.
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I saw that, but I'm trying to think who would be a bigger name than Ol' Krafty? It's a short list, that's for sure.
Here are my guesses in no particular order...

1. Alex Rodriguez
2. Micky Arison
3. Shahid Khan
4. Derek Jeter
5. Tiger Woods
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Here are my guesses in no particular order...

1. Alex Rodriguez
2. Micky Arison
3. Shahid Khan
4. Derek Jeter
5. Tiger Woods
Tiger instantly popped up in my head. Seems par for the course?

Ok, I'll see myself out.
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I saw that, but I'm trying to think who would be a bigger name than Ol' Krafty? It's a short list, that's for sure.
Here are my guesses in no particular order...

1. Alex Rodriguez
2. Micky Arison
3. Shahid Khan
4. Derek Jeter
5. Tiger Woods
I was wondering about #5 since he lives closest. But have not heard anything specific or rumors. Miami is a long ride and they have spas down there so guessing no one further south than Palm Beach.

Could also be a part time resident with a winter home on Jupiter Island or Palm Beach. There were actually numerous "Day Spas" involved not just the one associated with Kraft.
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World's oldest profusion but probably the most expensive option for the Kraftster.
His wife is likely freaking out. Here we go-look out for the divorce attorney.
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I was wondering about #5 since he lives closest. But have not heard anything specific or rumors. Miami is a long ride and they have spas down there so guessing no one further south than Palm Beach.

Could also be a part time resident with a winter home on Jupiter Island or Palm Beach. There were actually numerous "Day Spas" involved not just the one associated with Kraft.
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I was wondering about #5 since he lives closest. But have not heard anything specific or rumors. Miami is a long ride and they have spas down there so guessing no one further south than Palm Beach.

Could also be a part time resident with a winter home on Jupiter Island or Palm Beach. There were actually numerous "Day Spas" involved not just the one associated with Kraft.
Here is the list that was posted:

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Its a psuedonym for pedophilia networks, whenevr you hear 'human trafficking' in the news, they are talking about pedophiles networks being taken down

Liberals should get down on their bony knees and thank God that Trump is out here trying to save the kids
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Reading the ESPN article, it seems like police hid secret cameras in the facility to catch people during the act.

Is that legal if they didn't have the facilities permission? Will a court accept that as evidence?
Probably have legal basis and judge approval.
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Personally I'm going to wait until more facts come out instead of relying on an "attention grab" by the cops as if they are actually trying to do something about trafficking.

To sit here and assume this place or any place is a result of trafficking is just want the cops want you to think. In reality, there is a huge difference between those who do this voluntarily and those who are kidnapped and forced into it. However, that wouldn't fit the cops' narrative and wouldn't be an attention grabber (because, remember, the more "trafficking" they stop....the more funds they are given by the state and government).

Not a Pats fan at all....matter of fact, I hate them. Yeah, stupid for Kraft to go to this place because he is a billionaire (and, honestly, these kind of "massage" places are EVERYWHERE in Florida and the other 49 states). It's odd he drove however many miles for this when he probably passed 10 other places that offer this closer to home. However, this whole thing is the cops trying to exploit Kraft for their "cause". If there are bigger names than Kraft involved, then why weren't they named?

This is akin to the cops busting a weed dealer and making it out to be the capture of friggin Scarface or El Chapo. It's sad it's the world we live in today....but everyone has an agenda....the President, politicians, cops, criminals, black people, white people. Everyone has a motive.

The guy is 77 years old, not married....he can basically do what he wants. The guy got a f*cking handjob. But no! Let's make him out to be an international terrorist who must be a pedophile, rapist, supports international crime, etc.....hell he is worse than R. Kelly. GTFO.
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Last name, Daniel Young is almost 85! Young indeed...
And also a guy called Goering involved....

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World's oldest profusion but probably the most expensive option for the Kraftster.
His wife is likely freaking out. Here we go-look out for the divorce attorney.
His wife died in 2011.
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Personally I'm going to wait until more facts come out instead of relying on an "attention grab" by the cops as if they are actually trying to do something about trafficking.

To sit here and assume this place or any place is a result of trafficking is just want the cops want you to think. In reality, there is a huge difference between those who do this voluntarily and those who are kidnapped and forced into it. However, that wouldn't fit the cops' narrative and wouldn't be an attention grabber (because, remember, the more "trafficking" they stop....the more funds they are given by the state and government).

Not a Pats fan at all....matter of fact, I hate them. Yeah, stupid for Kraft to go to this place because he is a billionaire (and, honestly, these kind of "massage" places are EVERYWHERE in Florida and the other 49 states). It's odd he drove however many miles for this when he probably passed 10 other places that offer this closer to home. However, this whole thing is the cops trying to exploit Kraft for their "cause". If there are bigger names than Kraft involved, then why weren't they named?

This is akin to the cops busting a weed dealer and making it out to be the capture of friggin Scarface or El Chapo. It's sad it's the world we live in today....but everyone has an agenda....the President, politicians, cops, criminals, black people, white people. Everyone has a motive.

The guy is 77 years old, not married....he can basically do what he wants. The guy got a f*cking handjob. But no! Let's make him out to be an international terrorist who must be a pedophile, rapist, supports international crime, etc.....hell he is worse than R. Kelly. GTFO.
Well there was an 8-month multi agency investigation with court issued warrants, statements from workers/victims who lived in the facilities, shut down of at least 5 facilities and arrests of the owners, so not simply random assertions made by cops. Investigation was not about Kraft or other johns. They were just caught in the investigation of human trafficking. But of course everyone is innocent until proven guilty. In the meantime police was publicize as much as possible since that should reduce customer traffic into similar facilities.
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