[Obioban]

Bought a 2017 94aH BEV Terraworld.

It'll be getting delivered this coming Saturday. I bought the car from FL, because there doesn't seem to be very many in the PA area. I sent an M3forum member to to test drive it and make sure it didn't smell like the previous owner had used an air freshener in the car or smoked in it-- it checked out. Pics from the dealer:









We mostly got the car because my wife is pregnant and we want something to absorb the baby disgustingness so the M cars don't. But, I'll probably take it to work sometimes, too-- 97 mile round trip, but I can charge at work.

The sub <3000 lb weight (thanks CF monocoque!) and lack of required maintenance (thanks BEV!) really drew me in, and they're cheap enough used that, so long as we drive it, it's effectively a free car with the money saved on not buying gas (my wife and I combined drive 40,000+ miles per year, all in M cars... we use some gas).

Kind of excited, kind of ashamed

[afadeev]

Originally Posted by Obioban

Bought a 2017 94aH BEV Terraworld.

We mostly got the car because my wife is pregnant and we want something to absorb the baby disgustingness so the M cars don't.

Welcome to the ///Mi club.
As an ex-member (now M3^2 club), be careful of how addictive the EV torque and driving can be.
Before you know it, you might be racing with your wife for the keys to the i3... Don't ask me how I know.

Originally Posted by Obioban

The sub <3000 lb weight (thanks CF monocoque!) and lack of required maintenance (thanks BEV!) really drew me in, and they're cheap enough used that, so long as we drive it, it's effectively a free car with the money saved on not buying gas

How much did you pay for it?

Note that EVs still do require maintenance, just not for the drive train.
All rubber components still wear out at the regular intervals, brake fluid needs to be flushed, etc, etc.

Originally Posted by Obioban

Kind of excited, kind of ashamed

You should be scared, very scared.
The EV side is addictive as hack!

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[Obioban]

Originally Posted by afadeev

Welcome to the ///Mi club.
As an ex-member (now M3^2 club), be careful of how addictive the EV torque and driving can be.
Before you know it, you might be racing with your wife for the keys to the i3... Don't ask me how I know.




How much did you pay for it?

Note that EVs still do require maintenance, just not for the drive train.
All rubber components still wear out at the regular intervals, brake fluid needs to be flushed, etc, etc.



You should be scared, very scared.
The EV side is addictive as hack!

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$19,100 for a CPO 2017 Terraworld 94ah BEV with HK and 24,XXX miles on the clock (from a BMW dealership).

Just finished a 200,000 mile refresh on my wagon's S54, so just brake fluid and bushings sounds like no maintenance to me

[jmg]

Welcome! You will find more than a few M drivers here. They seem to go well together! On my second i3 and my second F80. I was just driving my i3 today after enjoying my other cars for the past week and it reminded me what a good car it is. My commute is 80 miles daily and it's perfect for me! Enjoy!

[SF_E60]

Congrats!! and Welcome to the EV world! Just like @jmg mentioned there are a few M owners here myself included.

[Obioban]

With some miles under my belt, my initial impressions I posted over on M3F

Well, there's a bit of hell froze over feeling to it, but we bought an i3.

The basic thought process was this...
1) inbound baby in a couple weeks
2) baby's are disgusting and ruin cars
3) I don't want them ruining and of the M cars
4) a slightly used (CPO 2017 in this case) i3 is cheap enough that the money we're not spending on gas 100% (and then some) costs the cost of it over 3-4 years, so long as we actually drive the thing
5) They are also essentially maintenance free driving (so long as you don't get the REX), which will be useful to my decreased free time. No engine, fuel system, transmission, etc vastly cuts down on upkeep. E.g. BMW's free maintenance covers two things on this car-- wiper blades and brake fluid

The i3 is kind of a cool car in a lot of ways. Ways that would be much cooler with a high revving, NA engine, but cool either way. E.g.
-Carbon monocoque
-all the panels are plastic or CF.
-total weight of <2800 lbs for a full functional 4 seat car (took it to dinner in comfort last night with me (6'4), my brother (6'6), my super pregnant wife, and my brother's wife)
-rear wheel drive
-50:50 weight distro
-super stiff chassis
-instant throttle response
-super low COG

My option needs were pretty specific:
-94aH battery (so 2017 or later)
-No REX (adds 300 lbs, maintenance, seemingly 99% of the failure points)
-HK stereo (because my wife really cares)
-no sunroof
-"tera world" (for the leather interior, instead of cloth interior)
-never smoked in or had an air freshener installed
-not silver
-20" wheels... because that's they way you can get summers (as opposed to all seasons).

Since most cars are REX and/or have the cloth interior, it was actually pretty tough to find a car. I quickly gave up on finding one locally (seems like very few were sold in this part of the country). After 6 months, I finally found a car in Florida that met my needs. M3F member Dave B went over to check the car out for me, test drive it, and make sure it didn't have any evidence of a former life owned by a smoker or air freshener user (it didn't). So, after 2 weeks of the dealership being the worst I've ever dealt with Lauderdale BMW Pembroke Pines), it arrived at my door

Pictures from the dealer:










Random fun photo of the chassis I found:




Wired up the garage with a 240v charger (0%-100% in ~4.5 hours):




Arrived:




Car in the garage for the first time:



Until the kid arrives, I'll be using it for my daily ~100 mile commute. Including today. Initial impressions:
-the car feels incredibly solid.
-It's weird to drive an EV by a real car company. Previously I've only driven ones that... aren't quite complete cars yet
-it's NOT slow. Not at all.
-it feels rwd, in every way you'd hope for
-steering feel is typical EPS, aka not great
-no engine sound is very strange. Great for DD, remarkably detracting from driving hard
-94mph top speed is seriously annoying. I'm going to try to get that removed, or at least raised the i3s's (same engine and battery) 100mph.
-interior, in tera world form, is really nice
-my driving style is not efficient. The Connected Drive app rates your driving efficiency on a scale of 1-5 stars. I'm averaging 1/2 of a star.
-regen braking takes some getting used to. It also makes the car feel strangely heavy, as if there's a ton of friction slowing you down
-LED headlights are bright!

Mods I'm considering...
-DIY trunk extension (into the area where the REX engine would be)
-bimmertech MMI carplay retrofit box
-OE BMW sunshades on the passenger rear seat
-Britax car seat base on the passenger rear seat

[Obioban]

3000 miles into i3 ownership, here are my complaints:
-I strongly dislike iDrive. It's super inefficient and distracting to get to anything. I'm going to do the retrofit CarPlay module largely so I can stop using it.
-there's no next track button on the steering wheel. If you want to go to the next track, without taking your hands off the wheel, the procedure is click in scroll wheel, turn down one (with poor tactile feedback) on the cluster list, click in a second time... and then it fails 1 time in 5. Instead I end up reaching for the head unit next track button, which is far enough away that I have to take my eyes off the road to look at it every time. Terrible removal-- next track is easily the most used buttons on the steering wheels on my other cars.
-the door pocket sticks out too far from the door and hits my leg
-EPS remains EPS
-no Michelin tire option
-94mph top speed is frustrating almost every time I drive it
-no regen when the battery is full makes for an inconsistent driving experience-- when I leave the neighborhood, the car drives/brakes distinctly differently than every other time I'm driving it.
-stock high beams are garbage (maybe not for MY2019+, when they changed them to biLED, but mine only had LED lowbeams). I've swapped the halogen highs for LED reflector housing highs, but haven't had a chance to drive it in the dark since then... we'll see. I'm not super optimistic.
-comfort access: when the car is on, the buttons on the fob should be non functional. The number of times I've popped the trunk because I shifted position in the seat, and my pants hit the pop trunk button, is asinine.
-comfort access: why the fuck am I still carrying a key around? My phone and/or watch should be able to handle all the comfort access functionality ala Tesla. Thankfully it doesn't use the "upgraded" key from some of their other cars:



Overall I'm enjoying it. Interestingly, the things I dislike about it the most (comfort access, steering wheel controls, and iDrive) are non i3 specific, general modern BMW issues.

[Obioban]

Since I only posted things I don't like about the car last posts, things I do like:
-babies like a champion. The child seat is easy to load (as long as you have the space to work the suicide doors, plenty of space in the back for my wife to sit with the kid, enough space so far for all the gear
-uses little enough electricity that we haven't noticed a difference on our power bill
-undefeated in traffic light drag races
-a silent car is relaxing
-light weight and instant accelerator response make it enjoyable if I find myself on an unplanned back road (planned back roads see M cars), even if the EPS is EPS.
-being super quiet means you get more auditory feedback from the tires, as you approach/exceed their limits
-the chassis is stiff like a bank vault.
-bluetooth phone call sound quality is amazing with the lack of engine noise
-LED low beams are pretty good-- better than any factory BMW Xenon I've used... still worse than every other car I own
-I actually like the electric motor acceleration noises :P
-accelerator pedal response is great
-any time you're not on the highway it feels quite quick.
-I still have yet to have any range anxiety, have not used a public charger, and never driven it in a slightly efficient manner other than not G loading the baby (when on board)
-it's super easy to justify driving anywhere/everywhere, when the cost is effectively ~$0.

I'm hoping to have time to stick it on my scales this weekend.

[eurobear]

Originally Posted by Obioban

3000 miles into i3 ownership, here are my complaints:
-I strongly dislike iDrive. It's super inefficient and distracting to get to anything. I'm going to do the retrofit CarPlay module largely so I can stop using it.
-there's no next track button on the steering wheel. If you want to go to the next track, without taking your hands off the wheel, the procedure is click in scroll wheel, turn down one (with poor tactile feedback) on the cluster list, click in a second time... and then it fails 1 time in 5. Instead I end up reaching for the head unit next track button, which is far enough away that I have to take my eyes off the road to look at it every time. Terrible removal-- next track is easily the most used buttons on the steering wheels on my other cars.
-the door pocket sticks out too far from the door and hits my leg
-EPS remains EPS
-no Michelin tire option
-94mph top speed is frustrating almost every time I drive it
-no regen when the battery is full makes for an inconsistent driving experience-- when I leave the neighborhood, the car drives/brakes distinctly differently than every other time I'm driving it.
-stock high beams are garbage (maybe not for MY2019+, when they changed them to biLED, but mine only had LED lowbeams). I've swapped the halogen highs for LED reflector housing highs, but haven't had a chance to drive it in the dark since then... we'll see. I'm not super optimistic.
-comfort access: when the car is on, the buttons on the fob should be non functional. The number of times I've popped the trunk because I shifted position in the seat, and my pants hit the pop trunk button, is asinine.
-comfort access: why the fuck am I still carrying a key around? My phone and/or watch should be able to handle all the comfort access functionality ala Tesla. Thankfully it doesn't use the "upgraded" key from some of their other cars:



Overall I'm enjoying it. Interestingly, the things I dislike about it the most (comfort access, steering wheel controls, and iDrive) are non i3 specific, general modern BMW issues.

Hey fella, interesting list of issues. I've just ordered a new i3 after having a company one for a while on loan. With regards to your issues I may have some fixes for you, but I guess I'm talking Euro spec against US spec, so there might be some differences -

- Changing tracks - the scroll wheel on the left side of the steering wheel under the 'MODE' button. rolling it up and down should give you options to skip forward or back. Pressing the scroll wheel in selects the option you chose.

- iDrive - Now I think this is one of the most intuitive systems on the market, but, to speed things up you can assign specific functions to certain buttons. For example, the inbox for address messages from the app is stored as my number 8. I love this function and use it on all my cars.

- Comfort Access - now the easiest way is to put the keys in a jacket pocket, but, I hear ya, it can be annoying if they are in you trouser pocket. I used to regularly pop the trunk on my 4 series. But, a hack, is to make sure the buttons are facing up and not towards your leg and that way they are never activated. You just have to remember to do it.

Hope it helps!

[jmg]

Originally Posted by Obioban

3000 miles into i3 ownership, here are my complaints:
-I strongly dislike iDrive. It's super inefficient and distracting to get to anything. I'm going to do the retrofit CarPlay module largely so I can stop using it.
-there's no next track button on the steering wheel. If you want to go to the next track, without taking your hands off the wheel, the procedure is click in scroll wheel, turn down one (with poor tactile feedback) on the cluster list, click in a second time... and then it fails 1 time in 5. Instead I end up reaching for the head unit next track button, which is far enough away that I have to take my eyes off the road to look at it every time. Terrible removal-- next track is easily the most used buttons on the steering wheels on my other cars.
-the door pocket sticks out too far from the door and hits my leg
-EPS remains EPS
-no Michelin tire option
-94mph top speed is frustrating almost every time I drive it
-no regen when the battery is full makes for an inconsistent driving experience-- when I leave the neighborhood, the car drives/brakes distinctly differently than every other time I'm driving it.
-stock high beams are garbage (maybe not for MY2019+, when they changed them to biLED, but mine only had LED lowbeams). I've swapped the halogen highs for LED reflector housing highs, but haven't had a chance to drive it in the dark since then... we'll see. I'm not super optimistic.
-comfort access: when the car is on, the buttons on the fob should be non functional. The number of times I've popped the trunk because I shifted position in the seat, and my pants hit the pop trunk button, is asinine.
-comfort access: why the fuck am I still carrying a key around? My phone and/or watch should be able to handle all the comfort access functionality ala Tesla. Thankfully it doesn't use the "upgraded" key from some of their other cars:



Overall I'm enjoying it. Interestingly, the things I dislike about it the most (comfort access, steering wheel controls, and iDrive) are non i3 specific, general modern BMW issues.

I had the same issues with the iDrive when I got my first Modern bimmer back in 2013. I hated not having a next track button. Several cars later and I'm used to it. The scroll lets you go from track to track or scroll though a list of tracks depending on what you are listening to. It's actually quite nice not to have to skip skip skip to get to the 3rd song. You just scroll. With two F30's, two F80's and two i3's since, I've gotten pretty good with the iDrive knob blind.

[Obioban]

Originally Posted by eurobear

Hey fella, interesting list of issues. I've just ordered a new i3 after having a company one for a while on loan. With regards to your issues I may have some fixes for you, but I guess I'm talking Euro spec against US spec, so there might be some differences -

- Changing tracks - the scroll wheel on the left side of the steering wheel under the 'MODE' button. rolling it up and down should give you options to skip forward or back. Pressing the scroll wheel in selects the option you chose.

- iDrive - Now I think this is one of the most intuitive systems on the market, but, to speed things up you can assign specific functions to certain buttons. For example, the inbox for address messages from the app is stored as my number 8. I love this function and use it on all my cars.

- Comfort Access - now the easiest way is to put the keys in a jacket pocket, but, I hear ya, it can be annoying if they are in you trouser pocket. I used to regularly pop the trunk on my 4 series. But, a hack, is to make sure the buttons are facing up and not towards your leg and that way they are never activated. You just have to remember to do it.

Hope it helps!

Yeah, I know about the scroll wheel. I just find it vastly less efficient/easy/quick than a next track button.

I wasn't comparing iDrive to other systems on the market, so much as to no iDrive. I don't really care about any of the functionality it adds over older cars, and it's hugely slower and more distracting for the things I have to get done.

I'll try that with the key. That said... not sure my pants are tight enough to keep the key in the orientation I put it in my pocket. I think the issue is other keys/pocket knife pressing buttons on it.

Originally Posted by jmg

I had the same issues with the iDrive when I got my first Modern bimmer back in 2013. I hated not having a next track button. Several cars later and I'm used to it. The scroll lets you go from track to track or scroll though a list of tracks depending on what you are listening to. It's actually quite nice not to have to skip skip skip to get to the 3rd song. You just scroll. With two F30's, two F80's and two i3's since, I've gotten pretty good with the iDrive knob blind.

The problem with that concept is that it require looking at, and reading words, on a screen (if you're going multiple items ahead and choosing by name). That's not something I feel safe doing while driving.

[Obioban]

As summer has been coming in, and temps have been rising, I've noticed a new thing: when at top speed for a while and going up a longer hill, I think the battery is being protected from overheating-- it's reducing my available power output (including a visual representation of that on the power meter). Takes ~5 min to recover after that happens. I'm curious how this will progress as it continues to get warmer.