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      01-29-2025, 11:26 AM   #89
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I am a bit mixed about the IX LCI.

Positive : the new IX45 version with a decent battery capacity, range and power. If this one had been available when i bought my IX i would have likely ordered this one. Because for this type of car 400 BHP is all one really needs and a similar range as the current IX M60 is also enough for me. Also the small updates on the other versions and a increase in efficiency and range are a positive ofcourse.

Negative : i do not like the triangular parts in the front bumper in the color of the car. I actually prefer these in black like they are on the pre-LCI for some contrast. I have a black car myself and this is one thing that i do miss a bit with a black car : missing the contrasting items. This is only a negative for the new base version obviously as this one only has the old bumper style with the old style triangular parts.

To be determined when seeing the LCI in the flesh : the new front and rear in the M-sport versions. Regarding the new M-sport front i think i like it a bit, but the back i am not too sure about. For both front and back i need to see it for real first. I fear that especially the new rear bumper diffuser just does not fit with the rest of the car. This aggresive style diffuser is just out of place in a otherwise non-aggresive styled car. The new front i like better but i also think it may be a bit out of place on this car. But i need to see it for real.
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That whole instrument cluster is a dealbreaker for me. It’s as if they remembered to add it after design was approved and car was built.
It is an eyesore especially from the side…as if it doesn’t belong.
The X5/X6 LCI was even worse! 🙄😖
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So the 800v thing is a moot point … you really can’t benefit a lot, we have a lot of 800v chargers, but they are all shared and with popular growth / demand most chargers are being shared limiting it to 200kw Max anyway … Especially on busy holiday trips … so to do a 1000km roadtrip you hardly win any time, as even TeslaBjorn shows, he charges at optimum rates and 400v cars are leading the 1000km challenge still. So yeah you could under most ideal conditions shave off 20 minutes on a 1000km trip, and you need to hurry up if you get full power charge on an 800v … So if this is a 700km range car and in reality a 500km you need like 2 stops of 25 minutes …
Need to constrain myself ��
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      01-29-2025, 11:40 AM   #94
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That whole instrument cluster is a dealbreaker for me. It’s as if they remembered to add it after design was approved and car was built.
It is an eyesore especially from the side…as if it doesn’t belong.
The X5/X6 LCI was even worse! ����
I mean better get used to it. It's standard on the whole line up. Personally I love it.
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Is there NACS coming to US?
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      01-29-2025, 11:46 AM   #96
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Did I miss a note about the seats? They seem to have no thigh support or other adjustments as in X5 and X7.
No adjustments. They are a bit longer, I measured 2 inches I think. And they are angled upwards so you don't slide as easily
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The iX is an awesome vehicle for sure, and I love it, but let's not get nuts here. There are EVs that beat it in virtually every category out there now, range, charging speed, 800v platform, battery tech, cargo space. Just look at the Lucid Gravity as an example.
There are lots of cars that beat the iX in one or two categories, but few overall.

The Lucid Gravity is on my list, and it is close to the iX in lots of categories. It lags in dealer support, audio system, and looks (I love the design but not the exterior colors). It is close to the iX but unproven.

M-B, Rivian, Audi, Porsche, Cadillac, Volvo, Polestar, Tesla, etc. all have offerings with major gaps, not just one or two. That is why I think the iX is the best SUV and likely best all-around.
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I am impressed how much copy someone put together for this car. I wouldn’t expect anyone to have so much to say about a cuv, no matter the brand.
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There are lots of cars that beat the iX in one or two categories, but few overall.

The Lucid Gravity is on my list, and it is close to the iX in lots of categories. It lags in dealer support, audio system, and looks (I love the design but not the exterior colors). It is close to the iX but unproven.

M-B, Rivian, Audi, Porsche, Cadillac, Volvo, Polestar, Tesla, etc. all have offerings with major gaps, not just one or two. That is why I think the iX is the best SUV and likely best all-around.
To me it looks like an electric mini van! lol. But It has some impressive tech.
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Does anyone know if the m70’s steering wheel use the red 12 o’clock marker? Hoping they stopped this practice on non M cars. I realize m70 is an m performance model.
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iX5 debut, though I'm less excited about that as it will share an ICE platform. But I'm keen on the NK iX3 to see how that compares.
I'm in agreement. I have 0 interest in any vehicle sharing a platform with ICE, as it's inherently compromised. I've done that (Polestar 2), and it kind of sucks. I now know just how good EVs can be when they're fully designed as pure EVs.

If it's not another iX, then the iX3 will work. And, if for some reason BMW decided to cancel the iX3 in the US, then I will move on from the brand again.
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I am impressed how much copy someone put together for this car. I wouldn’t expect anyone to have so much to say about a cuv, no matter the brand.
This is 24 pages long:

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There are lots of cars that beat the iX in one or two categories, but few overall.

The Lucid Gravity is on my list, and it is close to the iX in lots of categories. It lags in dealer support, audio system, and looks (I love the design but not the exterior colors). It is close to the iX but unproven.

M-B, Rivian, Audi, Porsche, Cadillac, Volvo, Polestar, Tesla, etc. all have offerings with major gaps, not just one or two. That is why I think the iX is the best SUV and likely best all-around.
It is a BMW that happened to be EV. No NACS support, slow charging. I'm currently driving a rental Kia EV6 that pulls 235kW easy. Not only other EVs are better as EVs, own BMW lineup is better as a premium vehicle. X5 M60i is better equipped, has better materials, better seats, less curb weight and as fast in acceleration. More so it's cheaper. Plus roof that you can open and no scratchy plastic on the doors. iX is a failed experiment, as many other legacy automakers attempts to "follow the trend".
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It is a BMW that happened to be EV. No NACS support, slow charging. I'm currently driving a rental Kia EV6 that pulls 235kW easy. Not only other EVs are better as EVs, own BMW lineup is better as a premium vehicle. X5 M60i is better equipped, has better materials, better seats, less curb weight and as fast in acceleration. More so it's cheaper. Plus roof that you can open and no scratchy plastic on the doors. iX is a failed experiment, as many other legacy automakers attempts to "follow the trend".
Hardly a failed experiment. In fact it's consistently rated as one of the top luxury EVs by independent reviewers. It can charge at 195kW max - pretty close to 235kW. Opening the roof or not is a matter of preference. I personally love the electrochromic roof. Comparing the curb weight of an ICE car to an EV is meaningless. EVs are heavy.
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It is a BMW that happened to be EV. No NACS support, slow charging. I'm currently driving a rental Kia EV6 that pulls 235kW easy. Not only other EVs are better as EVs, own BMW lineup is better as a premium vehicle. X5 M60i is better equipped, has better materials, better seats, less curb weight and as fast in acceleration. More so it's cheaper. Plus roof that you can open and no scratchy plastic on the doors. iX is a failed experiment, as many other legacy automakers attempts to "follow the trend".
No, the X5 M60i is no where close to as quick as an iX. The iX M60 smokes it by almost half a second to 60 and by more than half-second in the quarter. And the "normal" xDrive50 blows the doors off the normal X5.

As for driving experience, the X5 is great, but it is just a gas car, so it is loud and not smooth, with all the the other gas downsides. The X5 is like a Honda to the Rolls experience of the iX.

The iX range is in a very small class of BEVs, with few that do as well.

Charging is a bit of a red herring, since that is a non-factor in the vast majority of use cases.

Oh, and the iX audio system is widely regarded as the finest audio system in any car at any price. No other gas or electric car compares to the iX. When you drive the near-silent car with the world's best audio, you are immersed in a special world few have seen.
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Does anyone know if the m70’s steering wheel use the red 12 o’clock marker? Hoping they stopped this practice on non M cars. I realize m70 is an m performance model.
Yes, it does. Look here - https://www.bmwusa.com/vehicles/m-se...tml#technology
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No, the X5 M60i is no where close to as quick as an iX. The iX M60 smokes it by almost half a second to 60 and by more than half-second in the quarter. And the "normal" xDrive50 blows the doors off the normal X5.

As for driving experience, the X5 is great, but it is just a gas car, so it is loud and not smooth, with all the the other gas downsides. The X5 is like a Honda to the Rolls experience of the iX.

The iX range is in a very small class of BEVs, with few that do as well.

Charging is a bit of a red herring, since that is a non-factor in the vast majority of use cases.

Oh, and the iX audio system is widely regarded as the finest audio system in any car at any price. No other gas or electric car compares to the iX. When you drive the near-silent car with the world's best audio, you are immersed in a special world few have seen.
Everything you described is true for any EV, quiet, silky smooth acceleration and so on. But I drove X5 M60i recently (and ordered one). And it has same "best in industry" B&W sound system and much more quality interior than iX. I sat in both. Seats with no under thigh support for a 100k? Are you kidding? Roof that you can't open? Tell me it's not cost-cutting.
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Is that base price on the M70 a typo? Starts at $111,000 before destination?

While the LCI certainly appears to have improved the looks of the iX (which is not hard to do considering how ugly it was to start), there is nothing offered here to justify this kind of pricing. Figure at least $120k with 1 or 2 key packages/options.

I had a loner M60 for a week and found myself liking the car more than I thought (at least to drive, the interior and tech interface were pretty poor) but seriously, who would actually spend that much money on one of these? The interior is just so cheap feeling, especially the Veganza and the slab door panels.
Not a typo. M70 MSRP is the same as the outgoing M60. xDrive60 went up by $1,250 compared to xDrive50.
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Everything you described is true for any EV, quiet, silky smooth acceleration and so on. But I drove X5 M60i recently (and ordered one). And it has same "best in industry" B&W sound system and much more quality interior than iX. I sat in both. Seats with no under thigh support for a 100k? Are you kidding? Roof that you can't open? Tell me it's not cost-cutting.
My two primary complaints are the iX: the seats and the stupid fixed glass roof.

Seats: there's no excuse for the poor seats in the iX. There's simply not enough support and the seat bottom cushion is too short. Apparently, that LCI fixes this problem, but it's still not adjustable.

Glass: I despise that automakers decided to copy Tesla and go in the direction of fixed glass. The iX's execution is particularly not great - I liken it to having the opacity of either whole milk or 1% milk. You cannot see clearly out of it, the driver gets no benefit. You cannot open it for fresh air. And the iX is not the only BMW with the fixed glass. Awful decision. And BMW is not alone.
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