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      01-11-2019, 07:43 PM   #221
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Acting Chief of the Rio Grande Valley Sector Raul Ortiz, who met with President Trump Thursday, told Hegseth that his agents patrol a western and eastern corridor in South Texas. Ortiz said the western side accounts for 96 percent of foot traffic, since there is no fencing. "



https://insider.foxnews.com/2019/01/...res-no-fencing
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      01-11-2019, 08:19 PM   #222
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If Mexican immigrants are less violent than us then I'm not sure what the problem is, it sounds like financial security is what we're defending. But that's what immigrants are doing too. and why they've always come to the US
Are you falling for that narrative, as well?

Crime is seriously underreported in the immigrant community in general and the illegal immigrant community specifically. There is NO POSSIBLE WAY TO KNOW WHAT THE ACTUAL CRIME RATE IS IN THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY SINCE THEY DON'T REPORT IT.

The utter inability to put multiple data points, especially those which are directly conflicting together to form a cogent and informed decision is astounding. The data is out there. Why are people willfully ignoring it?!?!!
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Not that it matters... But nobody apparently can find the data that people quote where illegal immigrants commit less crime than people in the country legally. It appears to be a garbage statistic.

(Consider this a challenge for anyone to find the source of this statistic)
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      01-11-2019, 08:42 PM   #224
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      01-11-2019, 10:54 PM   #225
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There was a pretty effective wall in the movie "Doomsday". Tall, metal - and motion activated fully automatic sentry guns on top. Yeah, that'll work.
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There was a pretty effective wall in the movie "Doomsday". Tall, metal - and motion activated fully automatic sentry guns on top. Yeah, that'll work.
Haha. Yup. Interesting movie.

I believe the wall in that movie separated Scotland from the rest of Britain.
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Haha. Yup. Interesting movie.

I believe the wall in that movie separated Scotland from the rest of Britain.
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How did that GoFundMe build the wall thing go for you guys? LOL.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/11/u...gtype=Homepage
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Fantastic now you're gonna pay for it dummy, who's the joke on?
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      01-12-2019, 01:15 AM   #230
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How did that GoFundMe build the wall thing go for you guys? LOL.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/11/u...gtype=Homepage
On the 'Petty Scale' your post rates a 10 out of 10. Well done little man.
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      01-12-2019, 01:17 AM   #231
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Fantastic now you're gonna pay for it dummy, who's the joke on?
No one will because it will won't be funded. Trump will fail on this.
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No one will because it will won't be funded. Trump will fail on this.
I'll take this bet.
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No one will because it will won't be funded. Trump will fail on this.
Time to take a screen shot of this post.
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      01-12-2019, 10:59 AM   #234
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Back in 2009, before Chuck Schumer was aabducted by (illegal) aliens are replaced with a body double, he supported the same ideas about immigration as we do now. So what happened?

Let's look at some facts. Democrats are asking for universal health care, fixing our school system, better wages for lower class workers, fixing the environment etc... Yet they won't really address the one issue that makes the above nearly impossible to do and that is illegal immigration. We all know that demographics play a factor in elections. The democrats also know that majority of those coming in via the Southern border will vote democrat once they are eligible to vote. So why fix a problem that is boosting your voter base.
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Because dems base their policy on hope and feels instead of results and benefit to society.
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      01-12-2019, 11:20 AM   #236
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Because dems base their policy on hope and feels instead of results and benefit to society.
That accurately describes a Trump supporter too.
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      01-12-2019, 11:29 AM   #237
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Hardly we want smaller govt less social programs less intervention into citizens lives. Dems have cosmic vision they can fix problems and know better for individuals instead of staying out of their way.
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That accurately describes a Trump supporter too.
You got one newly elected Dem screaming about mother fucker Trump, while lil Lenin from NY gets mad when she is told her economic hand out plan is impossible to pull off but yeah it's the Trump supporters that are overly emotional.
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That accurately describes a Trump supporter too.
You got one newly elected Dem screaming about mother fucker Trump, while lil Lenin from NY gets mad when she is told her economic hand out plan is impossible to pull off but yeah it's the Trump supporters that are overly emotional.
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I'll take this bet.
So you're OK with a President declaring a false national emergency and stealing funds from other government programs to make good with his small and misguided base. A majority in this country, like myself, support improving the illegal immigration safeguards in this country, but view the wall as a total and complete waste of time and money. Mitch went home because he's worried as hell about what Trump will do and what he may have to do to stop Trump. Trump's total disregard for rational thinking and pulling massive amounts of people into this mess of the shutdown is not going well in the GOP. If Trump declares a national emergency to get the funding, the democrats will sue him and the senate will likely fight him as well now. He has no support other than his base.

Do you guys not realize that building a wall or any structure for that matter will take years before ground is broken? It's not like you order the thing via Amazon Prime and put it together like Legos in a day. There's a lengthy engineering study process. Then they'll need to take private owners land through eminent domain (good luck). Then there's all the environmental groups that will sue as well as various parties that will bring suit. Again, years, perhaps decades.

Even if money was somehow appropiated, the thing would be shelved the moment Trump is gone.
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So you're OK with a President declaring a national emergency and [diverting] funds from other government programs to make good with his [promise made to Americans]?
Actually saying I'm "ok" with it is pretty accurate. Though I don't "like" it, as it isn't how government should work. So I'm ok with it, but not happy or enthusiastic.


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If Trump declares a national emergency to [divert] funding, the democrats will sue him...
Your belief that the Democrats would "sue" POTUS really exposes your lack of understanding of the matter. Yes there surely would be legal actions to try and stop the re-appropriation, but nobody is suing POTUS on this. 😆


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Do you guys not realize that building a wall or any structure for that matter will take years before ground is broken? There's a lengthy engineering study process. Then they'll need to take private owners land through eminent domain. Then there's all the environmental groups that will sue as well as various parties that will bring suit.
Do you not realize construction has already begun? Do you not realize eminent domain and environmental restrictions are FAR less of an issue when the project is directly related to national security?
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      01-12-2019, 01:12 PM   #242
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I dont agree with declaring a national emergency but want the wall. The problem is the emergency play creates a precident which will be used by the next dem president to declare there arent enough transgender bathrooms and shift all funds from the military to build them.
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