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      03-25-2024, 02:08 PM   #1
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Brake Pedal Interference

I took delivery of my IX in early Feb, and noticed something very strange with the brake pedal. Seems that the tip of my toe is making contact with the arm of the brake pedal. It’s really strange, never experienced this with any other car, but now that I noticed it, it is driving me nuts.

Anyone else notice this? Under hard braking (Which is not common with the IX), your foot loses pressure on the pedal itself since your toe is taking on most of the pressure.

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      03-25-2024, 03:17 PM   #2
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Smaller feet/shoes or right-hand drive model required.

The pedal arm on RHD model is better suited to big feet.
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      03-25-2024, 04:14 PM   #3
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I have not noticed this to be a problem. I tend to place the pad of the pedal on the ball of my foot so that my toe is near the top of the pad similar to riding a bicycle. I do have above average size shoes but I've also been driving BMW's for quite some time so it's possible I've somehow adapted.
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      03-25-2024, 05:35 PM   #4
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I have had close to 20 previous BMWs. Never had this issue before.

Today, a buddy tried out my car and it’s the first thing he said. Loved the car otherwise but said the brake pedal would be an issue for him. Figured it’s not just me…

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      03-25-2024, 06:38 PM   #5
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I have had close to 20 previous BMWs. Never had this issue before.

Today, a buddy tried out my car and it’s the first thing he said. Loved the car otherwise but said the brake pedal would be an issue for him. Figured it’s not just me…

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Snap a pic of your pedals to see if there is something weird with yours.
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      03-26-2024, 01:48 AM   #6
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LHD models, the brake pedal arm comes from above the accelerator.

RHD models, it comes from above the dead pedal.

It’s not the first thread I’ve seen on the subject of the LHD brake pedal.
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Here’s an image taken of a LHD model’s brake pedal arrangement.

I guess some people with large shoes find their toes getting caught on the arm of the brake pedal.
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      03-26-2024, 04:47 PM   #8
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Yeah my brake pedal appears the same. Here is a pic.

Normally, I brake with the ball of my foot. My toe totally makes contact with the arm.

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Add a spacer.
Maybe 1"
Make it out of 2 layers 1/2" plywood or hardwood from a discarded pallet or something, grind it to a curve, paint it black then
screw it to the pedal and then screw the rubber pedal cover to that.
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Amazon has all kinds of brake pedal extenders

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=brake+ped...f=nb_sb_noss_1

These cheap pedals can be screwed on over the oem

https://www.amazon.com/Dorman-20727-...%2C135&sr=8-59

https://www.amazon.com/Dorman-20729-...%2C135&sr=8-72

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I took delivery of my IX in early Feb, and noticed something very strange with the brake pedal. Seems that the tip of my toe is making contact with the arm of the brake pedal. It’s really strange, never experienced this with any other car, but now that I noticed it, it is driving me nuts.

Anyone else notice this? Under hard braking (Which is not common with the IX), your foot loses pressure on the pedal itself since your toe is taking on most of the pressure.

Thx!

-Mark
My experience has been exactly as you describe. Feels like the arm is too close to the pedal itself and should have been shaped differently. Quite often my toes are catching the arm first. Don’t like when this happens- brake feel is completely off. Tried to adjust seat positioning but that didn’t help much. Maybe it is designed for people with smaller feet😀.
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This feels like a "you're doing it wrong" post but that's not the intent.

I sat in my car the other day and I was able to experience the same thing described here but I had to move my seat further back from a proper seating position. At least that was the case for me. When I sat comfortably with my wrists at the wheel and shoulder blade against the seat then my toe did not hit the bar. Moving the seat back more left my foot at an angle where my toe did hit the bar but this was a bad seating position (for me).
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I drive with 2 feet and use my left foot for the brake.
I like it better than using the right foot for both pedals and have been doing it for 45 years.
You can react faster and it's better for turning around on my driveway.
I don't keep my foot on the brake and have the regen set to 3 so I hardly use the brake pedal anyways
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My experience has been exactly as you describe. Feels like the arm is too close to the pedal itself and should have been shaped differently. Quite often my toes are catching the arm first. Don’t like when this happens- brake feel is completely off. Tried to adjust seat positioning but that didn’t help much. Maybe it is designed for people with smaller feet😀.
You've got feet for a Right-Hand Drive model.
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This feels like a "you're doing it wrong" post but that's not the intent.

I sat in my car the other day and I was able to experience the same thing described here but I had to move my seat further back from a proper seating position. At least that was the case for me. When I sat comfortably with my wrists at the wheel and shoulder blade against the seat then my toe did not hit the bar. Moving the seat back more left my foot at an angle where my toe did hit the bar but this was a bad seating position (for me).
I am going to try this….interesting.

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Yeah my brake pedal appears the same. Here is a pic.

Normally, I brake with the ball of my foot. My toe totally makes contact with the arm.

-Mark
Thanks for the pic. As others have said, looks identical to mine as well. I tried to replicate the issue with my right foot; I wear a size 11 wide shoe and when I use the part of my foot that I use naturally, I don't ever touch the arm. I had trouble actually getting my toe to touch the arm intentionally while pressing the brake down.

My suggestion, off the back of Pictor's post, would be to re-do your driving position based on being at a distance where you don't touch when naturally pressing the brake and when at full press your leg is not locked (that can be really bad in an accident). Once you have that set, adjust the wheel in or out to compensate for the added/reduced distance compared to your current setup. Then do the wrist thing but adjust the wheel, not the seat. See if that helps.
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