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On the other hand the interior styling is awful compared to those German cars. Truly awful. Build and paint quality on the Tesla Model S is more akin to a bottom of the market cheap car than any of the German cars you listed. But I do find that is generally true of many (most? all?) American cars. Certainly all those I have seen. The i8 by comparison feels like it is from another planet compared to the Tesla. (In the interests of balance, let me just add that build and paint quality of my old hand built Lotus is also pretty dire, and worse than the Tesla. But new mass produced Lotus cars are far ahead of Tesla quality.) |
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Tesla model S is not a track car. It is a full size sedan which has amazing acceleration because of its electric motors.
I bet Tesla can produce a electric car which is more track focused. Easy changes can include better cooling of batteries, decreasing wt and size, more gears instead of single gear to help with top speed. Producing a track car is definitely not their priority. But it does not changes the fact that a full size electric sedan in its first generation can give serious drubbing to its more track focused race cars even if only in straight line. |
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Sling shots also have very good straight line performance. But I wouldn't want to drive one.
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I had intended on buying a 6-GC which has in my opinion the nicest interior in the business - the Tesla certainly isn't oozing luxury like a 6, S-Class or A8 - but I have learned to appreciate the minimalist modern dash and the other parts of the experience are so great they outweigh the few downfalls of the car. The Tesla certainly deserves more respect than a few here are giving it.
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If a Model S can have 400 miles practical range, you can wonder how many people will have range anxiety. And 400 miles range is entirely possible even with incremental progress. It is a matter of time. If electric cars becomes mainstream, we will definitely miss the amazing soundtrack of race cars of today. Maybe not in our lifetime. |
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Part of range anxiety is recharging impatience.
One day electric cars will have extended range and either be charged by induction on the go, or charged very quickly. That day is not here. As a result, the Tesla is a transitional vehicle. The i8 is also a transitional vehicle. In exchange for a small ICE, the i8 eliminates both range anxiety and recharging impatience. And it's put together with fit and finish much better than the Tesla and doesn't handle like the QE2.
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Bang on.
Once battery tech moves on all hybrids and EVs will mature. In the UK, the charging infrastructure isn't there yet to remove range anxiety certainly on my long distance drives. My problem is this. An eV makes perfect sense for short journeys but can you justify £90k on a car only doing a relatively small number of miles that can be charged up at home. Nothing that hasn't been said before. Great machine Tesla but they are clearly too focused on 0-60 times! I will be paying close attention to Apples efforts, I would expect them to force manufacturers to up their game. |
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I appreciate what Tesla is trying to do (hey I own one!), but I don't respect that for that price they are paying no attention to the fit/finish/feel of the interior. Specially for what they want to charge. I have tried over and over to get myself to buy one, but I just can't do it. I even had a reservation on a Model X to replace two cars (AWD and an electric) but just ended up canceling after I saw the pictures of the Model X at shows and saw the interior. I mean can you imagine a Lambo or Ferrari having the look/feel of a Honda? (yes I am exaggerating just a little bit here to make a point). |
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....Hondas are much better built than the P85. |
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Having owned and driven a lot of vehicles my January-build P85D is quite excellent for fit/finish and the materials are a solid 8-9/10. The BMW/Audi interiors are much better but the joy I get out of driving/owning the Tesla surprised me. I will one day add a small, light-weight car as I miss that element (M2?) but for my use the P85D is awesome - I would have paid even more than the $150k it cost me - and that is saying a lot.
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Sorry I am being confusing. I own a Tesla Roadster, which I love. I was talking about Model S and Model X.
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I find a Nissan Leaf is good bang for the little bucks, i8 I would pay even more, and the i3 and Tesla S to be not worth the dollars, but just for me. |
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May be a dumb question but how are you adding your cars to your post.
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