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Test drove one of these on track recently, very disappointing.
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06-22-2022, 08:13 AM | #24 | |
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Just because Tesla does it doesn't mean everyone has to. The frunk is manual and not automatic. As far as the transmission tunnel, I suspect even the Neue Klasse platform will have a tunnel since it will support ICE also.
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06-22-2022, 09:21 AM | #27 |
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That's funny. That's like taking an 8 series on the track and comparing it to your M3C. The i4 is a 5000lb EV that doesn't compare to a dedicated M3 on the track. I personally think most people are not going to track their i4's.
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06-22-2022, 09:48 AM | #29 | |
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As you mentioned the Taycan is $70,000 (and up to $150,000 MORE) than the i4. They are both German, they both have 4 doors, they are both electric..but they are not in the same category. I will say in all honesty, that while both our Taycans are/were incredible, I am a BMW guy and I prefer the i4. Just the user interface alone in the BMW is light years ahead of Porsche. Last edited by deutsch100; 06-22-2022 at 10:36 AM.. |
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The G26 is a lot bigger than my E90 was. Compare a current M3 to my previous E30 M3 and the current M3 is a dog. Yeah, it's got power but does not feel nearly as precise. The steering is vague in comparison to either my E30, E36 or E90 for that matter Anyway, can we stop saying "but the M50 isn't an M3 and therefore not a real M"? We know it's not an M3! BMW knows it's not an M3! Did BMW call this an EV replacement for an M3? No. Does BMW even mention an M3 as a comparison to the M50? No. The reviewers do that. It isn't an M3 for a variety of reasons but neither is an M5, M8, X3M, X5M, etc. The benchmark is not an M3. The benchmark is every other "performance" EV on the market. When you compare it in the category that it fits into, it provides the best overall EV performance sedan package for under $110k Could BMW have made an EV that compares with the M3? Sure but most on this forum would not be waiting to get it because it would cost like a Taycan GTS. I think BMW made some excellent trade-offs to get a great performance EV to market where people could still afford it.
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Actually, you are right. They are SAV; sports activity vehicles.
I was incorrect in calling them cars. The implication was that they are not an M3 and should not be compared.
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Even if they had less efficiency than ICE vehicles, many of us would still buy EVs for their premium, effortless, torque filled powerband. The type of driving experience that actually allows you to accelerate and drive fast without making a scene with a loud thrashing engine that makes the other drivers next to you think you are trying to race them, or being aggressive. The convenience of plugging in at home and waking up in the morning with a full charge. Avoiding wasting time at the gas station, dealing with greasy, smelly, gas pumps. The supremely quiet, efficient and smooth electric propulsion system that allows you to drive into a town house, or apartment complex late a night without waking up people. Or if you are waiting in the drive thu, the vehicle takes virtually no energy, with no obtrusive start/stop systems that many of the ICE vehicles use. One of the most awesome features is the ability to relax in my car on my lunch break with full air conditioned comfort without having to run and engine just to keep the car cool. Again, these are just some of the things that makes the EV preferable regardless of eco related factors.
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1. In the USA, motor cars represent about 2%-3% of the market share........over horse's and carts. 2. Of the 285 million vehicles on U.S. roads today, (horse's and carts) fewer than 2% are motor cars. Moral of the story: these motor cars will never catch on. Long live the horse and cart. We must separate the HYPE about motor cars. |
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