[Young04]

Originally Posted by ricerboi

That was probably me on FB. If it’s tires only, you’re seeing 3-5% drop in range max (if any). If you’re swapping out the wheels to non-aero (especially heavy 3-piece forged 22” like me for my dailies), you’re looking at 15%+ in range penalty from wheels alone, on top of the 3-5% penalty from non-EV (Low LRR) tires.

No it wasn't you.

[crst4s]

I have had good experience with Continental Extreme DWS. Hopefully these will save me replacing at least one set of OE tires before lease return with the added utility of AS plus light snow capability. I will run these through fall, winter, spring and refit the Pirellis in summers until they get close to minimum tread depth for lease return. The Continentals are considerably cheaper with a much higher treadwear rating than the performance OE tires. The cash saving offsets cost of wheels. I find it much more convenient, and cheaper, to just swap wheels rather than switching and rebalancing tires. I will report on comparative wheel weights and effects on range when I make the swap. Does anyone know what the OE 22 in Bicolor wheels weigh with or without the Pirelli 275/40 summer performance tires?

[Kief]

Originally Posted by crst4s

I have had good experience with Continental Extreme DWS. Hopefully these will save me replacing at least one set of OE tires before lease return with the added utility of AS plus light snow capability. I will run these through fall, winter, spring and refit the Pirellis in summers until they get close to minimum tread depth for lease return. The Continentals are considerably cheaper with a much higher treadwear rating than the performance OE tires. The cash saving offsets cost of wheels. I find it much more convenient, and cheaper, to just swap wheels rather than switching and rebalancing tires. I will report on comparative wheel weights and effects on range when I make the swap. Does anyone know what the OE 22 in Bicolor wheels weigh with or without the Pirelli 275/40 summer performance tires?

Besides the Michelin PSAS4, I’m also considering going with the Conti DWS. I always had great experiences with the DWS. Really can’t go wrong with either tire.

[ricerboi]

Yeah the Conti DWS-06+ is my #1 recommendation for performance and value for the ix. PSAS4 ain’t bad if you’re a Michelin fan for $60/more per tire. The “S” for snow on the DWS’s for the first 25% of tread is one of the best on snow *for all-seasons* and overall tread life isn’t terrible.

Personally I’m probably going to go Nitto NT420V 285/40R22 after my current Nitto NT421Q 285/45R22 set wears out (I’m at about 60% left after 28k miles). Not bad for aggressive driving all the time, but dry grip isn’t as good so I wanted to upgrade a bit there. I get them for half the price you guys pay for the Conti/Michelin so…

[Kief]

Originally Posted by ricerboi

Yeah the Conti DWS-06+ is my #1 recommendation for performance and value for the ix. PSAS4 ain’t bad if you’re a Michelin fan for $60/more per tire. The “S” for snow on the DWS’s for the first 25% of tread is one of the best on snow *for all-seasons* and overall tread life isn’t terrible.

Personally I’m probably going to go Nitto NT420V 285/40R22 after my current Nitto NT421Q 285/45R22 set wears out (I’m at about 60% left after 28k miles). Not bad for aggressive driving all the time, but dry grip isn’t as good so I wanted to upgrade a bit there. I get them for half the price you guys pay for the Conti/Michelin so…

Those of us BMWCCA members can get 15% off Michelin until the end of the year. But yeah, the Contis are already $200 less and before any potential upcoming fall rebates

[Road Trip]

Boo to BMWCCA who does not provide any discount to BMW owners who only own EV’s. Time for them to support all BMW members regardless of ICE vs EV. Once they do, I will join quickly.

[admranger]

Originally Posted by Road Trip

Boo to BMWCCA who does not provide any discount to BMW owners who only own EV’s. Time for them to support all BMW members regardless of ICE vs EV. Once they do, I will join quickly.

It's actually BMW that pays the rebates and sets what they will be. CCA administers the program for BMW.

[MAMOHT]

Has anyone actually tried Michelin Pilot Sport AS4? i am curious to see what the actual range loss is.

[ilya4min]

Originally Posted by Kief

Those of us BMWCCA members can get 15% off Michelin until the end of the year. But yeah, the Contis are already $200 less and before any potential upcoming fall rebates

Have you tried using the CCA discount for tires before? I'm curious how it works when combined with other rebates. E.g. America's Tire currently has $110 off Michelins, and Costco offer $100 off. If I understand the program rules correctly, that renders CCA rebate completely useless. One could decline the America's tire rebate and get CCA instead, but if you include the sales tax, the saving will be quite minimal to justify the extra work and wait. Am I missing anything?

[Kief]

Originally Posted by ilya4min

Have you tried using the CCA discount for tires before? I'm curious how it works when combined with other rebates. E.g. America's Tire currently has $110 off Michelins, and Costco offer $100 off. If I understand the program rules correctly, that renders CCA rebate completely useless. One could decline the America's tire rebate and get CCA instead, but if you include the sales tax, the saving will be quite minimal to justify the extra work and wait. Am I missing anything?

Correct, you’re not supposed to submit two rebates…but it works
They appear to be two different rebate submission systems.

[iXLagrange]

Originally Posted by Kief

Besides the Michelin PSAS4, I’m also considering going with the Conti DWS. I always had great experiences with the DWS. Really can’t go wrong with either tire.

My first choice was Cont Extreme contact DWS 06+ but some tire shops would not install them because they are speed rated as W rather than Y, which BMW spec. Because of that I went with Michelin PSAS4.

[ilya4min]

Originally Posted by Kief

Correct, you’re not supposed to submit two rebates…but it works
They appear to be two different rebate submission systems.

The current rebates get granted at the POS, and just show up on your receipt. No submission required. I assume the CCA rebate will get declined if they get a receipt with a discount applied. But doesn't hurt to try, I guess.

[Kief]

Originally Posted by ilya4min

The current rebates get granted at the POS, and just show up on your receipt. No submission required. I assume the CCA rebate will get declined if they get a receipt with a discount applied. But doesn't hurt to try, I guess.

I bought from TR, and then had to submit a rebate after the sale. So you are probably right, if the rebate is noted on the receipt, then yes, the CCA one will likely get denied. So just go for the one with the most rebate, likely CCA with 15% off

[MAMOHT]

Originally Posted by iXLagrange

My first choice was Cont Extreme contact DWS 06+ but some tire shops would not install them because they are speed rated as W rather than Y, which BMW spec. Because of that I went with Michelin PSAS4.

How are they working for you? What is the range loss with those?

[ilya4min]

Originally Posted by Kief

I bought from TR, and then had to submit a rebate after the sale. So you are probably right, if the rebate is noted on the receipt, then yes, the CCA one will likely get denied. So just go for the one with the most rebate, likely CCA with 15% off

Thank you! Completely forgot about the TR option, they have arguably the best hazard protection. The Michelin mail-in-rebate is a little lower than AT/Costco, but if double-dipping with CCA, this gives the best deal, and I also got some cash back from cash back sites.

I'd do Costco instead as it's cheap and more convenient, but they don't install any tires to R20 wheels, so TR + AT installation is what I had to go with. At least that saves me some money, so can't complain too much.

[Kief]

Originally Posted by ilya4min

Thank you! Completely forgot about the TR option, they have arguably the best hazard protection. The Michelin mail-in-rebate is a little lower than AT/Costco, but if double-dipping with CCA, this gives the best deal, and I also got some cash back from cash back sites.

I'd do Costco instead as it's cheap and more convenient, but they don't install any tires to R20 wheels, so TR + AT installation is what I had to go with. At least that saves me some money, so can't complain too much.

You sound just like me…I too love my 4% percent cash back from Mr. Rebates!

[crst4s]

Originally Posted by crst4s

I have had good experience with Continental Extreme DWS. Hopefully these will save me replacing at least one set of OE tires before lease return with the added utility of AS plus light snow capability. I will run these through fall, winter, spring and refit the Pirellis in summers until they get close to minimum tread depth for lease return. The Continentals are considerably cheaper with a much higher treadwear rating than the performance OE tires. The cash saving offsets cost of wheels. I find it much more convenient, and cheaper, to just swap wheels rather than switching and rebalancing tires. I will report on comparative wheel weights and effects on range when I make the swap. Does anyone know what the OE 22 in Bicolor wheels weigh with or without the Pirelli 275/40 summer performance tires?

Just swapped wheels so will answer my own question. Wheel and tire weight does not seem to generate the interest it did on my previous forum (X3m). The OE 22in Bicolor wheels plus Pirelli tyres weigh between 75 and 77 lbs. My Asanti ABL 27, 22x9, +32mm, wheels with Continental DWS tires weigh between 64 and 66 lbs (bathroom scale weights). This seems to be quite accurate. Listed weight for wheels is 30.3 lbs + 31 lbs for tires and I estimate 3 to 5 lbs for sensors and balance weights. Hopefully a weight saving of around 11 lbs per corner will offset any loss of range due to aero.

[artE90M3ZCP]

I just replaced the 22’ oem pirellis for EVs (worst tire ever) with a set of Michelin Pilot Sports 4 (non-suv version). Huge improvement in ride quality, especially on concrete pavements! It feels like a new car. I should have done it on day one and not waited 1800 miles haha

Each Michelin tire weighs 30lbs vs 36 lbs for the pirellis. Took the car on a 180 mile trip and did not notice any range drop at all. Arrived with 113 miles to spare - had the highway assistant on for about 75% of the way at 85mph.

*submitting for the 15% bmwcca tire rebate now!

[ricerboi]

Originally Posted by artE90M3ZCP

I just replaced the 22’ oem pirellis for EVs (worst tire ever) with a set of Michelin Pilot Sports 4 (non-suv version). Huge improvement in ride quality, especially on concrete pavements! It feels like a new car. I should have done it on day one and not waited 1800 miles haha

Each Michelin tire weighs 30lbs vs 36 lbs for the pirellis. Took the car on a 180 mile trip and did not notice any range drop at all. Arrived with 113 miles to spare - had the highway assistant on for about 75% of the way at 85mph.

*submitting for the 15% bmwcca tire rebate now!

PS4S is awesome, and definitely the right tire for Texas. Very curious as to the treadlife for PS4S SUV and Non-SUV versions especially for our heavy cars. Hopefully we will get enough data here.

[Road Trip]

According to Tire Rack, the Michelin A/S 4’s SUV’s UTQG is 220, the non SUV one is 540, with the latter one being $100/tire cheaper. As you asked, going to be interesting over time to get actual iX tread-life info from posters. I am going with the regular Michelin A/S 4’s so count me to post my results.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compa...e=&tireIndex=1

[ZigmundUK]

Hey all - need some advice on the all season tyres - specifically if you have any issues with the tyres listed below.

The only options coming up for me in the UK with 22 inch wheel size are:

• Pirelli Scorpion Zero All Season - A, B, 69
• Pirelli Scorpion Verde All-Season - C, B, 71
• Vredestein Quatrac Pro - C, B, 73
• Vredestein Quatrac Pro+ - C, B, 73

The obvious choice would be the Pirelli Zero all season, but that's marked as Land Rover (I assume this makes no real difference to using it on a BMW?).

blurb: I've always gone with winters and swapped every 6 months because I stuck to RFTs in the past. However, with the IX there's no RFTs anymore so I'd rather just stick with a single tyre through the year.

[Road Trip]

I will never understand why Michelin is leaving you out.