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      01-19-2022, 06:23 PM   #1
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Wow that rolling race though, very very close

Edit, yeah I didn't hear the second race well lol, thought it was a rolling race.

I'm surprised at how the two are so close.

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Is there no such thing as dry pavement in Europe? Lol.
On dry payment a M3 Competition will walk away from a Tesla Model 3 performance. Yet, in this situation, the I4 wasn't giving an inch to the M3C even at 100MPH. The Tesla definitely wouldn't have held up so evenly.

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Is there no such thing as dry pavement in Europe? Lol.
On dry payment a M3 Competition will walk away from a Tesla Model 3 performance. Unlike the Tesla in this same situation, the I4 wasn't giving an inch to the M3C even at 100MPH.
FYI, this was slightlt under a 1/8th mile race fyi...(200m = 658 ft) it trapped 165kph or 102mph... .... ...

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1/8 mile wet race. What a waste. I'm so not sold on this BS "i4 is just as fast as M3C".

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1/8 mile wet race. What a waste. I'm so not sold on this BS "i4 is just as fast as M3C".

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The main point is at 100mph the i4 was still holding off the M3. In the last race you could see it gaining even. But yes dry pavement ratings the M3 should be substantially quicker and faster in the qtr mile. But again, the M50 is making some power. Put 1000lbs handicap on the M3 and it wouldn't be competing at all. These cars are going over 104 mph before the 1/8 mile!

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I don't understand how it can be this close considering the weight difference. Kinda frustrating! It must all be due to the instant electric torque and no gears
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was it me or was the m3 not using launch control?
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Not surprised they're that close at the 1/8 mile with less than perfect conditions, but the M3 should start pulling and finish the 1/4 mile ahead and trap higher too. EVs are crazy fast off the line.
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was it me or was the m3 not using launch control?
You're right. They show the gauge cluster in the 1st race and there's no launch control and you can see the "D" next to the gear digit and the transmission setting is not even at the fastest speed.

I wonder if they didn't do launch control because it was spinning on the wet track?
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Not surprised they're that close at the 1/8 mile with less than perfect conditions, but the M3 should start pulling and finish the 1/4 mile ahead and trap higher too. EVs are crazy fast off the line.
I actually think they may trap the same, but can't wait to see. The i4 trapped higher in the 1/8 and in other tests carried about 113.xx mph at the 1000ft marker, which makes me believe that.
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I like the i4 M50!!!

What's the RWD bias rate on it?
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What's the RWD bias rate on it?
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I like the i4 M50!!!

What's the RWD bias rate on it?
front motor is 258PS with a 8.874 final drive and a 1:1 gear ratio

rear motor is 313PS with a 9.347 final drive and a 1:1 gear ratio

....side note, a few things I noticed, there is a shot of the M50 with LC activated, but also not actived, but the M3 Comp X-drive shows not activated, yet they are very similar.

the M50 isn't the EV you are used to seeing, it literally has a flat powercurve from 8000-17000rpm...

In other words, the m50 is NOT an EV to be associated with a drop in top-end power but rather a flat wave of power that sustains beyond its electronically limited HP rating.

I actually thought the M3 x-drive Comp would have trapped higher in the 1/8 mile, but seeing this result from this test and others reinforces to me that the M50 will actually trap 124-126 mph in the 1/4 mile considering other factors.

or in other words, split the difference between an X-drive and RWD M3/M4 competition.

The M50's power apparently spins the wheels a bit, this thing will be a "monster" with just a grippier tire swap, and reasonable agile for its weight to boot according to a test driver who compared it to other performance EV's
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Not surprised they're that close at the 1/8 mile with less than perfect conditions, but the M3 should start pulling and finish the 1/4 mile ahead and trap higher too. EVs are crazy fast off the line.
It will pull, but its pretty close, i4 M50 quarters have been around 11.6 with the M3 around 11.3. That's reaction time off the line times.

After the 1/4 though the M3 will eventually widen the gap especially since the i4 tops out at 140. I cant wait to see what these i series cars can do on a platform not shared by ICE.
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yeah, it's surprisingly how well it does as a converted ICE platform.

It's not a true M car from a handling sense (and it wasn't meant to be), but straightline it's pretty close to where if the M3/M4 driver is caught in the wrong gear, or has to do a rolling brake-torque to load the turbo's, or has to wait for an auto downshift to occur the i4 M50 would show its legs.

Imagine just even 400lbs lighter in a 610hp (or higher) i4M configuration, this thing would punch well above its weight and current competition
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No surprise at all. EVs with instant torque and single gear are just going to pull like supercars. This is the future, like it or not.

On the track though… I bet the M3 will consistently be faster simply due to weight and the tendency of EV batteries to suffer from heat and limited range.
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It's the weight that's going to kill i4m50 on the track.
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I don't understand how it can be this close considering the weight difference. Kinda frustrating! It must all be due to the instant electric torque and no gears
Basically M3 has much better power to weight ratio but its not that much faster than i4 because of instant torque of electric motor or the amount of torque i4 has over M3 or the xdrive is not as reliable as expected to put that much power down!
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I like the i4 M50!!!

What's the RWD bias rate on it?
front motor is 258PS with a 8.874 final drive and a 1:1 gear ratio

rear motor is 313PS with a 9.347 final drive and a 1:1 gear ratio

....side note, a few things I noticed, there is a shot of the M50 with LC activated, but also not actived, but the M3 Comp X-drive shows not activated, yet they are very similar.

the M50 isn't the EV you are used to seeing, it literally has a flat powercurve from 8000-17000rpm...

In other words, the m50 is NOT an EV to be associated with a drop in top-end power but rather a flat wave of power that sustains beyond its electronically limited HP rating.

I actually thought the M3 x-drive Comp would have trapped higher in the 1/8 mile, but seeing this result from this test and others reinforces to me that the M50 will actually trap 124-126 mph in the 1/4 mile considering other factors.

or in other words, split the difference between an X-drive and RWD M3/M4 competition.

The M50's power apparently spins the wheels a bit, this thing will be a "monster" with just a grippier tire swap, and reasonable agile for its weight to boot according to a test driver who compared it to other performance EV's
It's nice to see a i4 M50 with the Standard 19" wheels. The demonstrator I drove, and most of the cars in other reviews have the wider 20" performance wheel and tyre set.
So, what is faster. Lighter wheels to spin or more grip to go?
I ordered with 19's for range… 50 miles loss going to the more grip of the U.K. 20" performance option. Also apparently larger brake rotors. But, more rotational mass for sprints and more unsprung mass for handling… But, BMW U.K. markets this as overall advantageous. So, potential to go faster in this configuration?…
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Yeah… except one is a living thing that deserves a name, giving you a wonderful noise and thrills and most important freedom to move everywhere, to stop and start it even 6 months later with no issues…

While the other is just a cold, quiet, no pesronality, no freedom device on wheels..

And yeah, that thing that breathes, sips, roars and moves that fast to even put to shame an instant souless electric fridge, is what I call TRUE ENGINEERING!
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