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      08-05-2014, 08:07 AM   #111
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All you guys with deliveries this month, when did you order?

I ordered yesterday, and have delivery in March 2015
In June I traded my V12 Ferrari for an i8 (protonic blue/pure impulse,week 34), an X5D Sport (week 32, due next week ) and an M4 (week 32,ED Sept ). Unloading that depreciating, underused beast, with little warranty left was the best thing I did. Dealer still has the car, price reduced to what he gave me.
I just looked at the last 5 new Ferrari's I had and what loss or gain when I sold them and how long I had the car.
F360 Spider Loss $30,000, 9 months
575M Loss $55,000, 3 years
458 Sold MSRP 3 years
458 Sold MSRP 1 year
FF Loss $120,000 2 and half years.
Nearly 9 years of Ferrari motoring in new cars for an average depreciation of
about $23,000 a year. bacon saved with the 458's.
In the same time period with same money outlay I could have gotten pre Enzo cars which in every case doubled or even trebled in value.
Personally I know 3 other F car owners who are getting off the new F car merry go round. Ominous trends for European and US F car dealers. (?)
Anyone know of a 330/365 GTC for decent money ? (LOL)
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      08-05-2014, 09:03 AM   #112
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Thanks, and that is pretty quick delivery. I guess it pays to have got orders in before the launch

I too will be selling my Ferrari btw

I anticipate the i8 will depreciate slowly initially (scarcity), and then fairly quickly (improved BMW and competitor cars of the same type).

I could be wrong of course
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Looks to me like the i8 is drawing in a new set of customers to BMW....smart move.
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Looks to me like the i8 is drawing in a new set of customers to BMW....smart move.
I think even in the USA , the days of excessive supercar display is increasingly narrowly focused. I never thought I would say it but acceptability by other road users in a $300k classic is positive enthusiasm, in a new Fcar or particuarly Lambo it is resentment and envy.
Electric is the way to acceptability in new quasi supercars.
P.S. I will miss my big yellow tachometer with the gear setting displayed large and bold !
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      08-05-2014, 09:47 AM   #115
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I've never heard of another BMW that attracted so many F car guys. A dealer on another forum posted a photo of a 458 that someone also traded in on an i8 order. It's crazy. And awesome. Definitely a new set of customers.

I still want an F car one day, but not willing to get rid of my BMW(s) for one. Maybe I will buy Arrezo's FF from his dealer when it is discounted another $100k in 2 more years? (I guess used is the way to go with that car). For the record it is my favorite F car, too, man. I will probably get the poor man's FF sooner, which came some 10 or so years before it - the 1999-2002 E36/8 BMW M Coupe. The shape is very similar. That's where the similarities end.

That average depreciation is amazing though, with the help of the 458s. My X6M has depreciated more than that in 1.5 years. Don't even get me started on the MB GL550 I bought for the future ex wife. That thing sank like a rock within months, as the new body style came out. But leveled out since it's only a $90k vehicle. Glad it's a lease!

On the i8 depreciation, yes there will be competition, maybe not for a few years; however I find it hard to see the overall package, especially the design/look, being in the same league as the i8. And the revolution in CFRP production process and it being the first hybrid sports far from BMW (or anyone, for that matter, when excluding the 3 hybrid hypercars) will always be part of the i8 legacy.

For example, the M Coupe I mentioned, was around $45-$50k new and today, 10+ years later, prime examples with the S54 motor from the E46 M3 still run for $35-$45k. There was only one generation and the production was limited, only 670 of the S54 motor cars were sold in North America.

The Z8 took a dip for a short while, then picked back up. I feel the same thing will happen with the i8. It will eventually stabilize and become a collector car. I also do not believe there will be a second generation of i8. When regular BMW series vehicles ride on CFRP/aluminum chassis due to the process developed for BMWi, the i8 will remain the genesis of a whole generation of lighter BMWs. I think over time this will help stabilize values pretty close to MSRP.

I could be wrong, also, of course...
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      08-05-2014, 04:41 PM   #116
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My three cars just got VIN's including the i8 (Status150) production started. ED M4 is 155 and X5D 154
Confirmed build sheet Protonic Blue/Pure Impulse.
Whatever happened to that scare a couple of weeks ago ?
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      08-06-2014, 02:21 AM   #117
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Status for my i8 is 155 from 27. of July. I was told by my dealer that my car has left the factory for delivery, but has been recalled to fix some problems. No one by BMWi can tell me why and the date for delivery. My dealer guess that there may still be some problems to fix and that no serie car has been released yet. Demonstration cars already in circulation seem to be pre-serie cars, build last year. Have you guys more info about this ?
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      08-06-2014, 06:09 AM   #118
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Very curious about what the "problem" is that needs fixing.
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Could be anything. I know it's not unusual for updates to happen even between shipping and arrival at the dealership. In the US, there are currently two "holds" in the system for i8s. One that they can't be released before Pebble Beach and the other is that they're waiting for emissions approval. I know my SLS was held at the port for an extra day to flash the ECU and transmission software before being released to a dealer. A friend ordered a new E63 and they held it for two days to add a new trim piece that was part of a rolling update. It could also be something as simple as a typo that needs fixing in the documentation. I wouldn't worry about it until I knew it was going to make an impact on delivery.
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      08-08-2014, 09:34 AM   #121
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Mine has now completed production and is awaiting carrier (status 180?). I looked ahead at the shipping schedules for Wallenius and Wilhelmsen, the shipping company that handles most of the BMW shipments, and see that there is a ship leaving Bremerhaven on August 23 arriving at Port Hueneme (California port of entry) September 19, so with any luck I should be seeing the car before the end of September.

Still waiting to see if my dealer can find a car to swap in order to get the Tera World, but at this point I'm not counting on it. I know I'll be thrilled with either PI or Tera, so am now just excited to be getting the car in the not too distant future.
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      08-08-2014, 11:06 AM   #122
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Mine has now completed production and is awaiting carrier (status 180?). I looked ahead at the shipping schedules for Wallenius and Wilhelmsen, the shipping company that handles most of the BMW shipments, and see that there is a ship leaving Bremerhaven on August 23 arriving at Port Hueneme (California port of entry) September 19, so with any luck I should be seeing the car before the end of September.

Still waiting to see if my dealer can find a car to swap in order to get the Tera World, but at this point I'm not counting on it. I know I'll be thrilled with either PI or Tera, so am now just excited to be getting the car in the not too distant future.
Nice. Mine was a Aug 25th completion date so four days after you (excluding the weekend). Hopefully mine will finish up in time to make an earlier ship. I've had cars JUST miss a boat and have to wait a couple days, which is always disappointing.
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Unhappy Update

Dealer contacted me today. There is a delay with mine

The current production week is 16-04-2015 and the expected week of delivery is 19-05-2015. Status 1100.
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      08-08-2014, 01:45 PM   #124
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Status for my i8 is 155 from 27. of July. I was told by my dealer that my car has left the factory for delivery, but has been recalled to fix some problems. No one by BMWi can tell me why and the date for delivery. My dealer guess that there may still be some problems to fix and that no serie car has been released yet. Demonstration cars already in circulation seem to be pre-serie cars, build last year. Have you guys more info about this ?
My dealer has been having holiday now but comes to work on monday. I should hear then if my car has arrived to dealer showroom. And there should not be many days after that for delivery...in case there are no recalls...
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Nice. Mine was a Aug 25th completion date so four days after you (excluding the weekend). Hopefully mine will finish up in time to make an earlier ship. I've had cars JUST miss a boat and have to wait a couple days, which is always disappointing.
Mine is now August 26th completion, dealer thinks it might make it before end of September.
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It seems that Bmw recalls all commercial i8 as i already post. I learned today that they are developping new tires to reduce the observed understeering with the test vehicles. The new tires, produced by Bridgestone will be softer and with a new shape.
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It seems that Bmw recalls all commercial i8 as i already post. I learned today that they are developping new tires to reduce the observed understeering with the test vehicles. The new tires, produced by Bridgestone will be softer and with a new shape.
That is fantastic news.

Have you heard anything about the Display Key, by any chance?
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It seems that Bmw recalls all commercial i8 as i already post. I learned today that they are developping new tires to reduce the observed understeering with the test vehicles. The new tires, produced by Bridgestone will be softer and with a new shape.
Fantastic news

Now we just need the RPM and Gear display dealt with
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I was supposed to have the second car delivered in Southern California (and the first at Bob Smith BMW) but was told the Pure World cars are the first batch. Since I dislike that "world" and grey seats I've said I'll wait. Any idea on when the next batch are coming? I don't have a production number yet obviously.
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I was supposed to have the second car delivered in Southern California (and the first at Bob Smith BMW) but was told the Pure World cars are the first batch. Since I dislike that "world" and grey seats I've said I'll wait. Any idea on when the next batch are coming? I don't have a production number yet obviously.
Like you, my first preference for the interior is not Pure Impulse (I want Tera), so my dealer is trying to swap my car that has finished production for another with the same specs, but with Tera instead of PI. Don't think anyone knows for sure when they'll start taking orders for the other worlds. As you probably know if you've read other posts in this thread, the first year's production (2014) will all be either Pure Impulse or Tera World. As you noted, the first batch are PI, but since they've run into production shortages from the seat supplier, roughly half of the cars for Model Year 14 will be Tera World. PI is intended to be available for only MY14 and MY15, so who knows when they will start letting other worlds be ordered. A related question is when does production for the i8 transition from MY14 to MY15. I've read on other threads that the changeover for MY varies according to the vehicle. Anyone have thoughts on when this might happen for the i8?
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Like you, my first preference for the interior is not Pure Impulse (I want Tera), so my dealer is trying to swap my car that has finished production for another with the same specs, but with Tera instead of PI. Don't think anyone knows for sure when they'll start taking orders for the other worlds. As you probably know if you've read other posts in this thread, the first year's production (2014) will all be either Pure Impulse or Tera World. As you noted, the first batch are PI, but since they've run into production shortages from the seat supplier, roughly half of the cars for Model Year 14 will be Tera World. PI is intended to be available for only MY14 and MY15, so who knows when they will start letting other worlds be ordered. A related question is when does production for the i8 transition from MY14 to MY15. I've read on other threads that the changeover for MY varies according to the vehicle. Anyone have thoughts on when this might happen for the i8?
I get the impression they will keep making them as '14s until they can't anymore, 12/31/14 or shortly before. Probably for something like lowering their MPG ratings for 2014. Otherwise why would you so adamantly avoid making them 2015s?
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I get the impression they will keep making them as '14s until they can't anymore, 12/31/14 or shortly before. Probably for something like lowering their MPG ratings for 2014. Otherwise why would you so adamantly avoid making them 2015s?
Price hike...
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