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      01-11-2015, 10:40 PM   #23
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I hope this does come out so we can move on from all the comments complaining about how BMW can't make a car to compete with the R8's of the world.
Everybody knows the R8 is a Lamborghini rip off, so who really cares anyways.
I don't care what car it rips off, just tired of all the "BMW lost it, doesn't even have what it takes to compete with ________" comments.

Hope BMW makes it to satisfy the one or so percent who would actually buy so we can move on to other things.
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So many non-functional air ducts...
my thoughts exactly... that design is getting out of control with all these twisted panes... guys, settle down. This looks stupid. No, Really!!!
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      01-11-2015, 11:07 PM   #25
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Everybody knows the R8 is a Lamborghini rip off, so who really cares anyways.
The M3/M4 already compete with the R8. The R8 is already outdated with a $62k car giving it a hard time.
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      01-11-2015, 11:41 PM   #26
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This will be interesting. The motor vehicle world is evolving greatly. A lot of people will hate it and a lot of
people will love it...
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The lack of love won't come from the fact that it's not on a race track but rather that it is on the ground and, in fact, ruined.
my 2 feets are currently on the ground, are they ruined? haha
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100!?!

If you ask me it should be the other way round. There should be a an ultra exclusive high super M and i combo limited to 100 units to coincide with the 100 year anniversary and a and a regular volume hotter version of the i8 chasing the day to day market.
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I hope this does come out so we can move on from all the comments complaining about how BMW can't make a car to compete with the R8's of the world.
Everybody knows the R8 is a Lamborghini rip off, so who really cares anyways.
Bingo. Well said.
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      01-12-2015, 01:29 AM   #29
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Still looks busy but at least they are going in the right direction!!
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It's a matter of time, but the bad economy did not rush a business case on such a halo car from BMW ///M.

I thinks it's more likely we will see a high performance version from BMW's i-brand before we see anything from BMW ///M.
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      01-12-2015, 02:58 AM   #31
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I have heard rumors of a 2.0l 4 cyl i8S, since last year. So I think that we will see this special (limited) i8.
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BMW i8 with 500 hp: 2016
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Sports car for the hundredth

For its 100th anniversary in 2016 BMW will knock you out! On the basis of the electric runabout i8 created an eco-rocket in small batches - for over 250,000 euros.


BMW celebrates its 100th anniversary on March 7, 2016. And the gift is called M 100. That is the abbreviation of the century development project. Forward an M because originally the M GmbH should manage the project. Behind the 100 - you know. Roughly speaking, the M 100 is a BMW i8 special "super fast". CEO Norbert Reithofer wants to put in the car to mark the centenary of the company, and his employer an emotional and sustainable monument.

Admittedly, it carries the AG responsible for the project, and Mr. Reithofer is watching the party from the tip of the Supervisory Board of. But the M 100, the product planners want to hold, as the new coupe will connect brand-typical motorsport genes with the DNA of Project i. Piquancy on the edge: M 100 is produced and directed by Roberto Fedeli, who came recently from Ferrari.

The carbon fiber chassis is adopted by this new economical athletes in principle from the electric racer i8, but stylistically it has been thoroughly revised. The new model is measurably more dynamic and more agile in character. Therefore, suspension and kinematics are either redesigned or tailored aggressive, springs and dampers are designed to be much tighter, which improve much wider tire grip and traction, the correspondingly larger brakes are more spontaneous and with more bite. At the same time, the aerodynamics is optimized. It's not just about the thermal efficiency of the gasoline engine, Electric Motor and brake system, but also more downforce at high speeds. The stabilizing "ground effect" (suction) arises partly from the air guide elements interplay between flow and underflow. The nearly 1,600-pound sport version is even stronger than the by no means weak i8 with 362 hp. The electric motor at the front axle will instead of 108 now deliver 204hp. At the rear, BMW is planning an upgrade from the 231-hp turbocharged three-cylinder of the i8 to the two-liter four-cylinder with around 286 hp. If you include the 27 hp, with the integrated starter generator (ISG serves mainly for boosting) involved in the system performance, the anniversary BMW will have in total well over 500 hp. The maximum torque is likely to be at 700 Newton meters.

Strictly limited, with only 100 models are delivered in 2017


While the top speed is probably limited again to 250 km / h to accelerate from 0 to 100 km / h in a very respectable 3.5 seconds - which in the i8 is seven-tenths longer time. For the power transmission is an automatic transmission with eight stages (the i8 has only six) in charge of Aisin transmission specialist. The i8S will debut in March 2016 to compliment said centenary. In September 2017, the first customer cars are to be delivered. Because BMW wants to limit the exclusive small series of only 100 cars, the sports model costs reportedly more than 250,000 euros - around twice the i8. The final model designation is still hotly discussed internally. Since Munich have so far only secured the naming rights from i1 to i8, i9 is currently not an option. The short list are instead i8S and i8CS.

Maybe the new CEO Harald Krüger will parallel to the i8S, reactivate the M8 project that was blocked by his predecessor. If we are to believe the white and blue grapevine, then you could in 2018 or 2019, have a 630-hp top model that is ready for series and which combines an even more powerful electric motor with a twin-turbocharged six-cylinder. Because the straight six is much longer, the M8 architecture should be designed as a pure two-seater.




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What a cool birthday gift! The BMW i8S combines the sporty charm of the unforgettable M1 with the efficiency of the Project-i-top model. Fans of the white-and-blue mark that sometimes just have 250,000 euros left, can look forward. Because the edition is limited to 100 pieces, BMW should definitely promptly follow up on the more exciting M8.

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Sounds like an interesting car, but out of my price range. It will need a super capacitor for it to have truly great track performance because extreme braking produces too much energy for the battery to accept and the result is a slow down after a lap or two.
Maybe, but F1 cars regenerate power from braking each lap and have electric power available throughout the race...
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      01-12-2015, 04:38 AM   #34
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This is the best looking magazine photoshop I have seen in a long time... if this car comes to fruition it will be on posters hanging on many young men's walls the world over... I love it
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That's one of the best renders I've seen in a long time, if it looks anything like that I will sell everything and get one
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Maybe the new CEO Harald Krüger will parallel to the i8S, reactivate the M8 project that was blocked by his predecessor. If we are to believe the white and blue grapevine, then you could in 2018 or 2019, have a 630-hp top model that is ready for series and which combines an even more powerful electric motor with a twin-turbocharged six-cylinder. Because the straight six is much longer, the M8 architecture should be designed as a pure two-seater.
Has none noticed, that this quote made simply no sence !?

Also if you make it an pure two-seater, an I6 would never fit in the M8 architecture ... but as an two-seater you gain room for an V6 or an V8.
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I hope this does come out so we can move on from all the comments complaining about how BMW can't make a car to compete with the R8's of the world.
you mean the porsche 918 and the LaFerrari. That would be amazing if it put that much power down and was under 200k
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Has none noticed, that this quote made simply no sence !?

Also if you make it an pure two-seater, an I6 would never fit in the M8 architecture ... but as an two-seater you gain room for an V6 or an V8.
The only way that quote makes any sense is if the M8 has a traditional longitudinal engine instead of the i8's transverse engine.

If they move the bulkhead forward (and make it a pure two seater) there should be sufficient space for a straight 6 engine. I think that a V8 would be tight to fit in the transverse position the 3cyl engine is in today though...
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Wow! Breathtaking!
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The only way that quote makes any sense is if the M8 has a traditional longitudinal engine instead of the i8's transverse engine.

If they move the bulkhead forward (and make it a pure two seater) there should be sufficient space for a straight 6 engine. I think that a V8 would be tight to fit in the transverse position the 3cyl engine is in today though...
Thatīs what I mean ... and if they change the engine direktion, the resuling car would have no more much in common with the i8 architeture, and this for an car with the same power layout ... what should such an car cost, if the I8S is allready by 250K€.

I beleave in this case it would much cheaper and therefor mor realistic if they bring this car with an V6 and let the i8 architekture mostly unchanged ... I think they told Georg Kacher only, that the M8 would get an twinturbo 6-cylinder and not that it would be an inline engine.
I think until now, that the M-GmbH has developed an M V6 engine and the only descission was to bring it not in the F8x M3/M4 !?
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Thatīs what I mean ... and if they change the engine direktion, the resuling car would have no more much in common with the i8 architeture, and this for an car with the same power layout ... what should such an car cost, if the I8S is allready by 250K€.

I beleave in this case it would much cheaper and therefor mor realistic if they bring this car with an V6 and let the i8 architekture mostly unchanged ... I think they told Georg Kacher only, that the M8 would get an twinturbo 6-cylinder and not that it would be an inline engine.
I think until now, that the M-GmbH has developed an M V6 engine and the only descission was to bring it not in the F8x M3/M4 !?
Maybe, who knows...

But the rear subframe is bolted on and is easily redesigned and replaced with something that could be suitable for other engines. Not sure how hard, or easy, it would be to move the rear bulkhead forward on the CF monocoque though? A longitudinal engine might even be mounted low enough to fit in under the rear window frame. In that case it would "just" be a case of moving forward the wall behind the rear seats in combination with a new rear subframe...


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But changing the engine direction from transversal to longitudinal means change the hole car concept, make for me only sence if the change also form the current hybrid concept to an petrol engine only version ... and then an pimped up version of the this time current M5 engine makes much more sence than an I6 engine.
My guess is, if they will stay with the hybrid layout the current i8 architecture with an transversal engine direction will say also !?
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But changing the engine direction from transversal to longitudinal means change the hole car concept, make for me only sence if the change also form the current hybrid concept to an petrol engine only version ... and then an pimped up version of the this time current M5 engine makes much more sence than an I6 engine.
My guess is, if they will stay with the hybrid layout the current i8 architecture with an transversal engine direction will say also !?
The hybrid system is not related to the position of the petrol engine. The hybrid drivetrain is in the front of the car and drives the front wheels. The rear end is a pure petrol engine and transmission, with a small electro booster engine in the transmission. This is also what the 535 Active Hybrid has. So this is not problematic to arrange regardless of the orientation of the petrol engine at the rear of the car.

If they will do this however is a different matter though...
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