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      05-14-2022, 09:26 PM   #67
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What happened? I guess your talk didn’t go well? They obviously trust you. Normally a fire is immediate with an escort out the building and not your last day will be X.
Yes maam, did not go well.

I was written up a few days after I told my boss I was looking to change divisions for "insubordinate behavior", and that I have until June 15 to fix it. I am to have daily check-ins with my supervisor, weekly's with his supervisor (also the guy who wrote me up), and once in two weeks with the VP.

The super's super made it very clear that if I do not do this I will be fired, and that "it will take a lot of effort to come back from this".

I'm waiting for a new job offer. Been applying etc so I'm optimistic; if I do end up getting an offer before the 15th I will fight this uphill battle with HR. I don't think being anyone should be punished for openly communicating (multiple times in advance as well both written and verbally) for something like this. I know myself better than anyone else, and I know I want to be doing other things, so I don't understand why this was taken so personally by management.
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      05-15-2022, 08:59 AM   #68
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Turkish Pickle I’m sorry to hear this. Based upon their reaction to your request, they’re not a good company. It should be about propping up good employees and giving people every opportunity to succeed. Everything happens for a reason. Good luck!
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      05-16-2022, 09:29 AM   #69
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I will be fired on June 15 for wanting to change divisions within the company, does that count?
Well that's bizarre. I wonder if they were already trying to figure out a way to get you to leave?

When I got laid off from TWG, we knew it was happening that day but didn't know who. The VP of Engineering just walked up to my desk and said, "Let's take a walk." Shit.

When I was laid off from Spirit Aerosystems, Monday morning they told me Friday was my last day due to budget cuts in the facilities department and then had the audacity to say, "Let's finish out the week strong."

Yes, you just told me I no longer have a job with you and you think I'm going to do anything?

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At least ex doesn’t get a piece of the severance (hopefully)
No, she didn't. Since there were no kids, the divorce was pretty straight forward. I told her to refinance the house in her name and it was hers, we put both our cars back into just our own names. I took my stuff and moved out, done.

I had a feeling something was brewing at work so I didn't want a mortgage. When they promoted someone to a similar title as me who had literally no experienced doing it, and didn't know how to use the software I had them buy............I got suspicious. Turns out I was right.

I have a feeling I got caught up in the layoffs because I really disliked the new "Team building" stuff and wasn't shy about letting it be known.

You want to do a team building event during the week? Great. All in. But I'm going to be looked at poorly because I don't want to give up my Sunday afternoon to go to a baseball game or go bowling with people I already see more than my wife (this was the previous year before things went south).

Sorry, I'm not up for that.
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Speaking of telltale signs, my company unfortunately had to go through multiple rounds of layoffs during/after the ‘08 financial crisis. During that time, HR used the same plain blue folder for all files - not for any specific reason, they needed folders for filing, they bought in bulk and they all happened to be blue.

So during the layoffs, all the managers were walking around with blue folders containing people’s severance packages. Eventually the employees told us that every time a manager was seen carrying around a blue folder, the whole floor would silently just freak the fuck out.

To this day we still don’t use blue folders. And “getting blue-foldered” is an internal colloquialism for getting laid off
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my best getting fired story was in college one of my coworkers left his facebook up at one of the counter computers and we posted a bunch of shit from his account. got "fired", had to write him an apology letter, then then they rehired me. this was 15+ years ago and that company still tells new hires to not leave personal stuff open on the counter computers and to not mess with anyones facebook.
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      05-16-2022, 12:44 PM   #72
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I have a feeling I got caught up in the layoffs because I really disliked the new "Team building" stuff and wasn't shy about letting it be known.

You want to do a team building event during the week? Great. All in. But I'm going to be looked at poorly because I don't want to give up my Sunday afternoon to go to a baseball game or go bowling with people I already see more than my wife (this was the previous year before things went south).

Sorry, I'm not up for that.
The military is really big on those kinds of things. team building/family picnics, with mandatory attendance on late Friday afternoons, or on the weekend. Yeah, f that noise.
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My old boss told me dont ever put more things in your office than what can fit in 1 cardboard box. So when you leave, it's quick and painless.....
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I worked for Deloitte at one point. Can't say that was not a large corporation. Was pretty easy to fire people.
Partners in consulting firms use staff reductions to meet their quarterly and yearly financial goals.
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I was the team lead for a new section of IT staffers, about 10 of us. When the company we were hired out to demanded OT work, but wouldn't pay OT hours, I said I wouldn't break the law. My boss didn't have my back, even when I told him the details.

During my exit interview, he told me the company would have covered the OT to teh employees, just not billed the parent company for the work. Parent company also stated "we can rent 2-3 employees for the price we are paying for your expertise" Fine, hope they can figure out the command structure at the base, and which people will wait for computer service.


Related, I remember an All-Hands email went out to everyone, both military and civilian. Someone apparently with several stars on his lapel had been busy viewing pron for a while, and they made an example of him.
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