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There's a niche market for this car and as long as it impresses on road and doesn't look like hot trash I like that they made it.
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05-15-2022, 08:40 PM | #25 |
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The M lounge rear seating makes no sense. If this car is driven the way a M should be driven then the rear seat passenger would get thrown out by the lateral G forces. I'll be sticking with the X5M.
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It’s not a race car. Neither is an M5 or even M3. Doesn’t mean they don’t have a place. Seems to be quite a step on the from the X5/6 M’s which were already stupid fast and nicely trimmed. This is just fun for the sake of fun, “physics” be damned
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Is it just me or does it look like most of the interior will be the same as the X7 LCI with bits here and there from the X5/6M.
As for this monstrosity being the first standalone M product in decades…
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Indeed, according to this forum, there are only two things you can/should do with your M BMW. 1) track it or 2) buy groceries. M3’s get tracked (all of them), X3/5M’s get parked in front of a Costco.
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Can we normalize calling this "BMW Urus"?
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I think it's cool that BMW is doing a stand alone M car thing. SUVs prob sell better than sedans and coupes. And if the XM is successful, maybe a stand alone M car will follow.
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Those guys looked like they were having fun. I understand physics but I also have some idea of how much fun 600 hp would be. The only thing that would make it more fun would be if you could switch it to rear wheel drive only. |
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What did they do to the B&W grilles? Oh dear - I'm at least a much bigger fan of the current gen… perhaps this is just a preproduction shell?
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FYI, for those whining about "physics", here is an example of an SUV (see Porsche Cayenne) setting a better lap time than the new (G80) M3, which is obviously a serious performer. So the idea that because of "physics" an SUV can't be a worthy performance vehicle is absolute nonsense:
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Current "performance" SUV's defy physics at an insane rate. You have to think that the suspension and body take a heavy beating from these capabilities and will have more/faster wear and tear than the M cars.
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The M5CS, priced 60k less as specified wearing the same Pirelli Pzero Corsa also beat this 180k SUV (specced over 200k according to your article), so your point is... what An SUV can be worthy performance vehicle, with a significant money, more power, and better tires, to defy those very same physics they are trying to defy, now imagine the same car in a lower, lighter body, perhaps it would have been even faster. Panamera Turbo S vs. Cayenne GT Turbo, or even the X5CS vs. M5CS, the latter case, tires likely would be worth a second or two, but not 10 seconds difference
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By the way, a lower-lighter vehicle lacks UTILITY, which is something you "purists" seem to forget. Unless you are competing professionally with your M car (which no one is), utility will always have a value. Why the hell would I car about getting a car with FAR less utility for a second or two on the track when I am not using the vehicle to compete? Makes literally zero sense. |
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As far as dilution of the M brand, that I will agree with. M is just a marketing tool, BMW is not the first and neither will it be the last, and neither will they care what we say anyways as long as it sells to the client it is intended for.
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