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      09-02-2019, 05:51 AM   #23
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Why would anyone buy an i3 instead of Tesla Model 3.....and well....i8 ???
The range and 0-60 times are pathetic compared to Teslas.
I still don't understand why i8 is not equipped with long range batteries and 0-60 times < 3 seconds.
Not to mention a model 3 literally looks like a Toyota. Some Toyota's are actually cooler looking.

The i3 at least visually is more out there. Tesla's just look like ducks.
I'm not a Tesla fan...but 3 looks ok to me.
However, it has better electric steering than BMW electric steering.
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Ready for next-gen!!!!
Same here.
i8 was always one of mine favorite cars from BMW

Would like to see changes to the new one with 4 cylinder engine instead 3 and bigger battery. 600hp and I am all in
I am definitely on board with that! I'm not exactly too fond of the rear end but my friend has a an i8 and that thing is so damn responsive on the throttle. Can only imagine if it had an extra cylinder and more power.
I drove it several times and I love it, just lack of power.
Lucky you!
That thing looks really low to the ground.
Yeah, it's not for everyone dough.

Because of thick CF tub, it's not as easy to get in.

I didn't have problems getting in but it's definitely not for people that have back problems.
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I3 makes a lot more sense in Europe than US I would imagine
I seriously have to agree.

Not enough CCS chargers in the US for me to have ever considered one.

And over the last 5 plus years there is still little effort to seriously grow the CCS network.
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Same here.
i8 was always one of mine favorite cars from BMW

Would like to see changes to the new one with 4 cylinder engine instead 3 and bigger battery. 600hp and I am all in
I am definitely on board with that! I'm not exactly too fond of the rear end but my friend has a an i8 and that thing is so damn responsive on the throttle. Can only imagine if it had an extra cylinder and more power.
I drove it several times and I love it, just lack of power.
Lucky you!
That thing looks really low to the ground.
Yeah, it's not for everyone dough.

Because of thick CF tub, it's not as easy to get in.

I didn't have problems getting in but it's definitely not for people that have back problems.
It's getting out of an i8 that's the hard part.
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Same here.
i8 was always one of mine favorite cars from BMW

Would like to see changes to the new one with 4 cylinder engine instead 3 and bigger battery. 600hp and I am all in
I am definitely on board with that! I'm not exactly too fond of the rear end but my friend has a an i8 and that thing is so damn responsive on the throttle. Can only imagine if it had an extra cylinder and more power.
I drove it several times and I love it, just lack of power.
Lucky you!
That thing looks really low to the ground.
Yeah, it's not for everyone dough.

Because of thick CF tub, it's not as easy to get in.

I didn't have problems getting in but it's definitely not for people that have back problems.
It's getting out of an i8 that's the hard part.
Yes, i should wrote it that way.

Fighting the gravity.... it's easy to drop in. Lol
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sunsetting the two models. like others have stated lets see the next gen.

side note that i8 interior looks pretty good to me
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Ready for next-gen!!!!
I sure hope so, is there rumor I'm when would next gen i8 come out?
Hopefully soon, this is the replacement that most likely will come
Oooooo that snout!
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There are a surprising amount of i3 daily drivers who have weekend M cars. The i3 compliments my M3 CS quite nicely for city driving. Lots of instant torque and the carpool sticker bonus.

As a secondary car, it can't be beat. Super low lease payments and a range of 150 miles is perfect for a commute both in Europe and the US.

Exactly, and as no electric car is good enough to be an only car for me, why get anything like a Tesla and another car, get an easy to park i3 and an M car.
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There are a surprising amount of i3 daily drivers who have weekend M cars. The i3 compliments my M3 CS quite nicely for city driving. Lots of instant torque and the carpool sticker bonus.

As a secondary car, it can't be beat. Super low lease payments and a range of 150 miles is perfect for a commute both in Europe and the US.

Exactly, and as no electric car is good enough to be an only car for me, why get anything like a Tesla and another car, get an easy to park i3 and an M car.
An EV can be the only car you own.

You can rent whatever else you need beyond that.
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Why would anyone buy an i3 instead of Tesla Model 3.....and well....i8 ???
The range and 0-60 times are pathetic compared to Teslas.
I still don't understand why i8 is not equipped with long range batteries and 0-60 times < 3 seconds.
Price was the main reason I picked mine up recently. Thereís currently $9000 in incentives on these babies right now, not including OL or the state and local rebates that any EV will get as well. Great value for money.

I will add that although it came down to a financial decision, the i3 is an excellent little thing and has really grown on me. CFRP construction is cool, bicycle-like U-turns are cool too. Pretty roomy and the connected app is useful. The performance numbers feel somewhat misleading to me, as this piggy is a real weapon from 5-55. Itís not in the same league as a Tesla but quick enough to dust most cars that arenít modern and turbocharged.

Thereís no denying itís ugly. The i3S goes some way to make it look less goofy, and black helps to hide some of the flaws... but yeah it is what it is
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Why would anyone buy an i3 instead of Tesla Model 3.....and well....i8 ???
The range and 0-60 times are pathetic compared to Teslas.
I still don't understand why i8 is not equipped with long range batteries and 0-60 times < 3 seconds.
Price was the main reason I picked mine up recently. There’s currently $9000 in incentives on these babies right now, not including OL or the state and local rebates that any EV will get as well. Great value for money.

I will add that although it came down to a financial decision, the i3 is an excellent little thing and has really grown on me. CFRP construction is cool, bicycle-like U-turns are cool too. Pretty roomy and the connected app is useful. The performance numbers feel somewhat misleading to me, as this piggy is a real weapon from 5-55. It’s not in the same league as a Tesla but quick enough to dust most cars that aren’t modern and turbocharged.

There’s no denying it’s ugly. The i3S goes some way to make it look less goofy, and black helps to hide some of the flaws... but yeah it is what it is
Ok...I take some of my words back
My friend had one in Chicago and he loved it. It's great specially in crowded cities.
But the only thing is that the driving range shd be longer on these cars.
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Ok...I take some of my words back
My friend had one in Chicago and he loved it. It's great specially in crowded cities.
But the only thing is that the driving range shd be longer on these cars.
I wouldn't mind another 100 miles on top of the current 150. EV development was hurry up and wait. BMW dropped the ball after the i8 and i3 came out. It was ahead of their times, and now they are behind except in driving characteristics and the i8's styling, which I think hold up.

Despite a lackluster 0-60, the i3 is the best non AWD economic electric car on the road as far as driving dynamics. Not because it turns well... it turns okay, it's that it's RWD. I can't stand driving FWD EVs. They just feel horrible. All that torque on a FWD just ends in boner killing wheel spin.
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Why would anyone buy an i3 instead of Tesla Model 3.....and well....i8 ???
The range and 0-60 times are pathetic compared to Teslas.
I still don't understand why i8 is not equipped with long range batteries and 0-60 times < 3 seconds.
The build quality is on a too low level. There was a car review of the Tesla Model 3 where the water came in through the doors during a car wash, the water came in the trunk during rain, among other basic things that went wrong. The ergonomics aren't great either. Tesla basically just get too many basic things wrong, BMW doesn't.
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Why would anyone buy an i3 instead of Tesla Model 3.....and well....i8 ???
The range and 0-60 times are pathetic compared to Teslas.
I still don't understand why i8 is not equipped with long range batteries and 0-60 times < 3 seconds.
The build quality is on a too low level. There was a car review of the Tesla Model 3 where the water came in through the doors during a car wash, the water came in the trunk during rain, among other basic things that went wrong. The ergonomics aren't great either. Tesla basically just get too many basic things wrong, BMW doesn't.
That's a very uncommon bad example, I have seen Tesla build quality improved over the cycle
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Why would anyone buy an i3 instead of Tesla Model 3.....and well....i8 ???
The range and 0-60 times are pathetic compared to Teslas.
I still don't understand why i8 is not equipped with long range batteries and 0-60 times < 3 seconds.
The build quality is on a too low level. There was a car review of the Tesla Model 3 where the water came in through the doors during a car wash, the water came in the trunk during rain, among other basic things that went wrong. The ergonomics aren't great either. Tesla basically just get too many basic things wrong, BMW doesn't.
Agreed
I saw it first hand when my friend took delivery.

But all I'm saying is from performance perspective...BMW can easily outperform that.
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