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      12-19-2022, 10:08 AM   #1
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2023 BMW i4 is a Car and Driver 10Best

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Great product- but in the US- a huge wait.

Also- Car & Driver didn’t explain what volt the charge is on the i4 and if it’s competitive to Tesla. Close to 250kw speed to charge like the Model 3? Most of us will be charging during the day at stations if we want to use the car.
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very heavy 🤔 sounds are gone 🤔 no trammison 🤔 no type of enjoyable power curve 🤔 no thanks will Stick with S65 🫡
or even a G8X Rwd 🤷🏼‍♀️
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It’s a great car, but not above their ICE products.
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BMW doesn't make an ICE I'd even consider anymore. I want an i4 M60.
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BMW doesn't make an ICE I'd even consider anymore. I want an i4 M60.
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very heavy 🤔 sounds are gone 🤔 no trammison 🤔 no type of enjoyable power curve 🤔 no thanks will Stick with S65 🫡
or even a G8X Rwd 🤷🏼‍♀️
Of course 🤔, can't really compare to an M car in terms of fun 🤔. But compared to a 330i with the most boring 4 cylinder sound and turbo lag 🤔, give me an electric powertrain 🤔 instead.
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The impeccably crafted interior is quite comfortable and features a vast curved screen that is functional and intuitive. It’s also optional, in case you’re not into that kind of thing.
Is this true?
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Is this true?
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Which part?
I’ve bolded it.

the vast curved screen

Or am I reading this all wrong ?
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I’ve bolded it.

the vast curved screen

Or am I reading this all wrong ?
I believe the curved screen is optional on the e40
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I believe the curved screen is optional on the e40
That is not correct. BMW sells the HUD as optional with the description “curved screen with HUD” but all i4s and all iDrive8 cars have the curved screens
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That is not correct. BMW sells the HUD as optional with the description “curved screen with HUD” but all i4s and all iDrive8 cars have the curved screens
Poorly written article. Yes, HUD is almost always optional.
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BMW doesn't make an ICE I'd even consider anymore. I want an i4 M60.
I liked this from the written review.
"As for EV rivals, it makes the Tesla Model 3 and Model S, in particular, look shockingly crude. "

But an i4 M60? In all seriousness, why? Just because?

The M50 is more than enough car to lose your license. I doubt they do an M60. I think you might see an i5 M60. BMW marketing probably won't allow it and they'll wait to up the power for a M version in 3+ years. The M50 is already cannibalizing sales from the M3/M4.

Not that it matters because BMW is still getting the dollars.
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very heavy �� sounds are gone �� no trammison �� no type of enjoyable power curve �� no thanks will Stick with S65 ��
or even a G8X Rwd ����‍♀️
If you find turbo lag, or no instantaneous torque in the power band most of us drive below 70 MPH enjoyable, then that is your subjective preference. Kind of like those that feel a 2300lb Miata with a manual gearbox is much more pure fun to drive than your heavy BMW.
Power curve?? Most people that drive EVs find the power curve to be one of the most addicting aspects of the car. Besides being smoother, quieter, and 3x more efficient. As I said, stay with your S65, because it is definitely nice to hear you revving though your gears while struggling to keep up with the EV next to you. Makes it that much more fun for the EV driver, except your car might draw the wrong kind of attention from the patrol car parked at the side of the road.

But the EV may not suit you:
If you drive more than a few hundred miles every day.
Live in an apartment without your own L2 charging
Like going to the gas stations rather than the 5 seconds to plug the car in at home.
Are one of those guys that loves obnoxiously loud exhaust systems.

Food for thought: This electric car is actually planned for production. 1.4 sec 0-60, and will beat any gas car on a road course. It slaughtered the Goodwind Speed record with all those outrageous gas cars not even making it to the top 3. Jump to 20:15 for the acceleration run.

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I'm calling major BS with this one. Every single review has said the i4 is fine but isn't particularly fun outside of a straight line and is no replacement for the M340 let alone the M3. It's not even on a proper EV chassis, so it weighs as much if not more than a BMW X5. There's no reason why the i4 should be on this list when the G20/G80 are missing.

Print "journalism" is struggling for dollars over the past decade, so they resort to paid advertising masquerading as awards. Motor Trend especially has been bought and paid for as of late. I expected better of C&D, whom I'd tended to trust a lot more over the years. Thankfully Savagegeese, Throttle House, R&T, and some others tend to call it like it is.
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very heavy 🤔 sounds are gone 🤔 no trammison 🤔 no type of enjoyable power curve 🤔 no thanks will Stick with S65 🫡
or even a G8X Rwd 🤷🏼‍♀️
As an i4 owner, this sounds like you've never actually driven one.
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I'm calling major BS with this one. Every single review has said the i4 is fine but isn't particularly fun outside of a straight line and is no replacement for the M340 let alone the M3. It's not even on a proper EV chassis, so it weighs as much if not more than a BMW X5. There's no reason why the i4 should be on this list when the G20/G80 are missing.

Print "journalism" is struggling for dollars over the past decade, so they resort to paid advertising masquerading as awards. Motor Trend especially has been bought and paid for as of late. I expected better of C&D, whom I'd tended to trust a lot more over the years. Thankfully Savagegeese, Throttle House, R&T, and some others tend to call it like it is.
Savagegeese, Throttle House, R&T, Straight pipes, all loved the i4, fwiw.
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I'm calling major BS with this one. Every single review has said the i4 is fine but isn't particularly fun outside of a straight line and is no replacement for the M340 let alone the M3. It's not even on a proper EV chassis, so it weighs as much if not more than a BMW X5. There's no reason why the i4 should be on this list when the G20/G80 are missing.

Print "journalism" is struggling for dollars over the past decade, so they resort to paid advertising masquerading as awards. Motor Trend especially has been bought and paid for as of late. I expected better of C&D, whom I'd tended to trust a lot more over the years. Thankfully Savagegeese, Throttle House, R&T, and some others tend to call it like it is.
Plenty of reviewers have said it is not as sporting as an M3/M4, as it was not intended to be. But many have said it is definitely the superior car to the M340i. You have to remember, this "pig" still pulls .91 lateral G, and has out braked the M3/M4 in 100-0 tests.
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