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      12-07-2021, 11:17 AM   #2949
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Motivation for training has been very low,so I've taken the last 10 days off. Still eating clean like I normally do. Everyone gets burnt out and needs a break,I'm enjoying the time away from the gym.
Enjoy the time away. I just did similar though I was still running a lot. The time off has led to a solid bit of motivation in here the last week and a half now. Having fun each day to be honest!

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I finally got back to the gym today after a busy month of moving.

Unfortunately, I had a motorcycle accident Saturday, and my shoulder was sore...then I tried to lift dumbbells for flys, and I couldn't even get it up.... it didn't hurt as much as weakness. So I bailed and did arms. Guess I will take more time off. Frustrating.
Damn, sorry to hear about the accident, but at least you are in good enough condition to still make it to the gym! Don't push that injury too hard or it could get worse man. Although the time off sucks for gains, you'll probably regret it if it gets any worse.
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Finally in full on bulk mode. Have spent the last two months slowly increasing calories and finally here....there....somewhere. I love and hate bulking. I enjoy feeling like my skin doesn't fit anymore and noticing the tightness of my shirts around my shoulders and arms. I am not a fan of the fluff I pick up during. I do typically try to bulk all winter. It also helps keep me warm. I froze 2 years ago at single digit body fat in winter.
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I decided to go ahead and just skip bulking this winter haha because I hate how I carry weight so i've been cutting just for the hell of it. Had my partner take some pics of me a few weeks back.

I'll get another set in a few weeks while I continue to lean out but super happy with where i'm sitting ~191 at 5'9" and 36yrs old.
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Finally in full on bulk mode. Have spent the last two months slowly increasing calories and finally here....there....somewhere. I love and hate bulking. I enjoy feeling like my skin doesn't fit anymore and noticing the tightness of my shirts around my shoulders and arms. I am not a fan of the fluff I pick up during. I do typically try to bulk all winter. It also helps keep me warm. I froze 2 years ago at single digit body fat in winter.
Stay after it man! I refuse to bulk anymore, put on weight waaayyy too fast. Prefer to just look decent in my business attire rather than look like I'm struggling to take a breathe before I blow out a button lmao.

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I decided to go ahead and just skip bulking this winter haha because I hate how I carry weight so i've been cutting just for the hell of it. Had my partner take some pics of me a few weeks back.

I'll get another set in a few weeks while I continue to lean out but super happy with where i'm sitting ~191 at 5'9" and 36yrs old.
Looking mean man!
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      12-07-2021, 01:00 PM   #2953
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Stay after it man! I refuse to bulk anymore, put on weight waaayyy too fast. Prefer to just look decent in my business attire rather than look like I'm struggling to take a breathe before I blow out a button lmao.



Looking mean man!
I'm thinking a few more cycles and I'm going to just maintain. I'm not trying to get huge. If I can get to 150-155 at 10-12% I'll be happy. I mean, shit; most 45 year olds don't look how I do now.
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In my younger days I would bulk for the winter and get up around 235-238lbs(I'm 5'7"),could never eat enough to make it past 240lbs no matter how hard I tried. I'd end up vomiting forcing that last meal or shake down,which is just stupid gym-rat shit I did. Then diet come springtime and drop down into the 190's. Can't say I miss it. Clean bulk for me from December-March,typically creep up to 215lbs but ab's are always there.

I enjoy staying in shape year round especially since moving to a beach community. Besides,I'm too old&lazy to gain 50lbs+,and I have nothing to prove at this point in my life. I'd probably have a massive heart attack and drop dead from all the fluid retention if I blew up to 235lbs lol
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How are you guys measuring or calculating BF%?
Curious about this as well
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FWIW,I know when I'm single digit BF by looking in the mirror. When I reach that point when my glutes have clearly visible striations and I have veins popping in my lower abdominals and in my obliques;I'm under 10%.
Used to get pinched w the calipers from several personal trainer friends over the years and we'd joke around and guess what my BF was.
Until this summer that is lol,headed back up to NY for a family event and stopped by my old training partners gym for a quick session. He said you wanna check your BF while you're here? I said,nah I'm good I know Im single digits..He says how are you so sure fatboy?? So I showed him my striated glutes lol. He said and I qoute," I FUCKING HATE YOU GET OUTTA MY GYM AND TAKE YOUR GLUTES WITH YOU!!"
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I'm curious on the measurements as well. I honestly have no idea where I fall as a %. Once my legs start striating and having visible veins I'm feeling pretty lean, but even at that point I barely have visible abs haha.
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I'm curious on the measurements as well. I honestly have no idea where I fall as a %. Once my legs start striating and having visible veins I'm feeling pretty lean, but even at that point I barely have visible abs haha.
I'm sure you know at least on person that can pinch test you with the calipers,that'd get you pretty close to what your BF is.

From the pic you posted above,I'd guestimate 14-16%

Honestly though,it's just a number. If you're happy w how you look who cares?
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Does anyone here have first or secondhand experience with D-Bal or any of these other so-called 'legal steriods'?

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Damn sorry to hear that,heal up quickly!
Weather here has cooled down nicely so I'll be taking out the turbo bike(s) out this week,but the locals still can't drive for shit so I'm reluctant
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Damn, sorry to hear about the accident, but at least you are in good enough condition to still make it to the gym! Don't push that injury too hard or it could get worse man. Although the time off sucks for gains, you'll probably regret it if it gets any worse.
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Curious about this as well
I use a body fat caliper mostly. Toward the end of a cut or bulk cycle, I go to the local GNC and get a full body scan.

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I'm curious on the measurements as well. I honestly have no idea where I fall as a %. Once my legs start striating and having visible veins I'm feeling pretty lean, but even at that point I barely have visible abs haha.
How often do you work your abs? I work mine daily and can still see the top 4 at the end my bulk cycles. I'm usually single digit before I start bulking and same as those above, can see veins in lowers abs and obliques, shoulders and chest you can see damn near every striation.
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Does anyone here have first or secondhand experience with D-Bal or any of these other so-called 'legal steriods'?

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Negative. I avoid supplements that aren't protein, creatine or caffeine.
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How often do you work your abs? I work mine daily and can still see the top 4 at the end my bulk cycles. I'm usually single digit before I start bulking and same as those above, can see veins in lowers abs and obliques, shoulders and chest you can see damn near every striation.
Honestly... almost never in isolation. That's probably my powerlifter background and training coming through, and if abs are what I want ... I should probably try to work that into my training.
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Jeez man, that's scary. Glad you're alright.
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How are you guys measuring or calculating BF%?
I don't. It's holiday season so definitely eating more. We are doing a calorie deficit cut with increased gym time starting in January but until then it's all good. I'm sitting at around 22% right now at 6' and 240lbs. Goal will be ~215-220lbs. About the same weight as when in the Marines 20+ year ago and just staying physically capable for the work needed to do.

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Why take 'em? Seriously. Why even bother? Once off them, the vast majority of gains evaporate and you've done significant damage to your body's endocrine system.

Testosterone, sure. If you are deficient, get to around 800-1000 and stick there. That's maintainable. In your 40's and been clean your whole life, sure, do some testosterone and life is better overall. But taking anything beyond Testosterone(limited to natural levels), creatine, protein, and preworkout....nah.
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Negative. I avoid supplements that aren't protein, creatine or caffeine.
What brand creatine do you use?

Thanks for the input regarding D-bal. I had never heard of 'legal steroids' until this week, figured I'd ask.
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What brand creatine do you use?

Thanks for the input regarding D-bal. I had never heard of 'legal steroids' until this week, figured I'd ask.
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Sorry I don't have more info on them. I just avoid them all. In the beginning I tried fat burners, BCAA's, EAA's, and sorts of other shit. There is no magic powder that serves as a substitute of hard damn work. (excluding anabolic's)
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It's all BS.

The only product like the ones advertised above that actually worked back in the day was called Superdrol. 10-20mg a day was all you needed. You could buy it at GNC,Vitamin Shoppe,etc. It was absolutely insane. Basically an oral version of Masteron.

Only issue was that it actually contained a little known DHT derived anabolic called Methyldrostanolone(Methasterone) GNC couldn't keep it on the shelves,people were buying cases of it as soon as it was delivered lol. FDA got wind of it and arrested the owner of the company that marketed and sold it and that was that.


Ahhh,the good ole days!!!

If you want steroid-like gains,you need to take steroids. Go have your bloods done and if your test levels are low enough find a good Endo and get on some TRT. You'd be amazed at the gains one can make on 200mg of T a week
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