[exxxviii]

Originally Posted by HybridLA

I was looking for available Tesla Super chargers for my 2024 iX. Do you see far less options in the native Tesla app as compared with the map on the Tesla website? https://www.tesla.com/findus?v=2&bou...s=party%2Cnacs

Also has anyone bought the NACS adaptor? If so what brand would you recommend. Thanks.

Right now, an iX can only charge at a Supercharger with a Magic Dock. There are very few of those in the US. The "Open to NACS" category is generally V3 and V4 superchargers, but those will only work with Ford right now.

I am holding off on buying an adapter until BMW is onboarded to NACS Superchargers. That will probably be around a year away, and I would not be able to use the adapter until then anyway.

[NomoTesla]

Originally Posted by HybridLA

I was looking for available Tesla Super chargers for my 2024 iX. Do you see far less options in the native Tesla app as compared with the map on the Tesla website? https://www.tesla.com/findus?v=2&bou...s=party%2Cnacs

Also has anyone bought the NACS adaptor? If so what brand would you recommend. Thanks.

You don't need an adapter to use the Tesla superchargers w/ magic docks that are currently open to CCS. Even if you had an adapter it would not do anything because BMWs cannot electronically authenticate to charge at any Tesla supercharger. That will come in 2025.

The Tesla app is the best place to see currently active superchargers w/ magic dock for CCS. If you don't see any in your area then there aren't any. Superchargers w/ magic docks are few and far between. Tesla's promise of opening up its network have been big on talk, short on action. You can count on Tesla to do the bare minimum to qualify for federal funds, and once they have them, will split hairs with the law and find ways to spend the money on itself.

[javapro]

Originally Posted by HybridLA

I was looking for available Tesla Super chargers for my 2024 iX. Do you see far less options in the native Tesla app as compared with the map on the Tesla website? https://www.tesla.com/findus?v=2&bou...s=party%2Cnacs

Also has anyone bought the NACS adaptor? If so what brand would you recommend. Thanks.

"Superchargers Open to Other EVs" are the only ones shown on the map that will work with BMWs until at least the end of this year. They already have a magic dock (NASC to CCS) adaptor, so no extra one is needed.

[Kennethjk]

Luckily there are several in NYS, on the route to where I am going for a week vacation this summer.

If there weren’t I might take the Mach E , I will the have the free ford adapter in April but with several Tesla options and longer range of IX that trip should be a breeze. I hope!

[Kennethjk]

Rivian announced today that their cars will have access to Tesla station now and will be giving people an adapter for free.

I have a feeling BMW will get access before the end of the year. Just a guess. I expect it to move quickly and we will see if they give people adapters for free.

[sor]

Man I’m surprised at how quickly the magic dock locations are springing up! There are so many now.

It’s kind of weird that you can charge at any of these, but are blocked from using other locations even if you have an adapter (or so I hear).

[exxxviii]

Originally Posted by sor

It’s kind of weird that you can charge at any of these, but are blocked from using other locations even if you have an adapter (or so I hear).

1. Contractually, they committed to an order of things
2. There is back-end onboarding technology work to be done for each automaker
3. Magic Docks can charge anything

[Kennethjk]

Originally Posted by exxxviii

1. Contractually, they committed to an order of things
2. There is back-end onboarding technology work to be done for each automaker
3. Magic Docks can charge anything

I get the feeling that the backend might not be that difficult to do and will be rolled out quickly, of course that is wishful thinking

Ford got it a few weeks ago and now Rivian. Hope I am right

[exxxviii]

Originally Posted by Kennethjk

I get the feeling that the backend might not be that difficult to do and will be rolled out quickly, of course that is wishful thinking

Ford got it a few weeks ago and now Rivian. Hope I am right

There are 10 automakers between Rivian and BMW. If the onboarding cadence is one-ish a month, that’s a while.

[Kennethjk]

Originally Posted by exxxviii

There are 10 automakers between Rivian and BMW. If the onboarding cadence is one-ish a month, that’s a while.

This is a list I found on the internet

11/11/22 Aptera
5/25/23 Ford
6/8/23 GM
6/20/23 Rivian
6/27/23 Volvo
6/29/23 Polestar
7/7/23 Mercedes
7/19/23 Nissan
8/15/23 Fisker
8/18/23 Honda/Acura
10/5/23 Hundai/Kia
9/21/23 Jaguar
10/17/23 BMW
10/19/23 Toyota
11/1/23 Subaru
11/6/23 Lucid
12/19/23 Volkswagon/Audi/Porsche
1/16/24 Mazda
2/12/24 Stellantis

Your probably right but I think there is a decent chance it will go quicker and if they skip some of the very small producers BMW would move up the list.

[sor]

Originally Posted by exxxviii

Contractually, they committed to an order of things
There is back-end onboarding technology work to be done for each automaker
Magic Docks can charge anything

I get it. They can’t necessarily do plug and charge without work.

The weird thing is just that they can charge you and not care about the brand of your car with the CCS adapter that is onsite, but if you bring your own suddenly they need a back end onboarding for your make of vehicle, instead of just treating you like a “non Tesla” as the magic dock sites do.

Then again it never made any sense to me that auto makers needed any sort of contract or approval from Tesla to use the “open” NACS, especially when anyone can just roll up to a magic dock supercharger without a contract and use it.

[bmwterp]

Originally Posted by NomoTesla

You don't need an adapter to use the Tesla superchargers w/ magic docks that are currently open to CCS. Even if you had an adapter it would not do anything because BMWs cannot electronically authenticate to charge at any Tesla supercharger. That will come in 2025.

The Tesla app is the best place to see currently active superchargers w/ magic dock for CCS. If you don't see any in your area then there aren't any. Superchargers w/ magic docks are few and far between. Tesla's promise of opening up its network have been big on talk, short on action. You can count on Tesla to do the bare minimum to qualify for federal funds, and once they have them, will split hairs with the law and find ways to spend the money on itself.

I don't think the 2025 is confirmed. 2025 was the target date for BMW changing their port on the cars. Its possible now that there's an official adapter, BMW and Tesla could make things available sooner.

In Tesla's defense, it seems like the magic doc was a bit more complicated than it seemed. Plus, with the recent announcement of pretty much all cars going to their standard, it doesn't really make sense anymore. Tesla now has a map of available superchargers with an adapter and it's a lot more impressive.

[exxxviii]

Originally Posted by bmwterp

I don't think the 2025 is confirmed.

"Early 2025" is the timeline BMW shared in their original press release that CCS drivers would get access.

Originally Posted by BMW of North America

Drivers of BMW, MINI and Rolls-Royce Electric Vehicles in the U.S. and Canada Will Gain Access to Designated Tesla Supercharger Stations in Early 2025.

BMW of North America Expands Electric Vehicle Charging Options for Customers in the U.S. and Canada with Access to Tesla Supercharger Network

[Paladin1]

The future will be interesting. BMW has never been known for its rapid adoption of anything. And I suspect Tesla has been planning to add robustness to its network in conjunction with the announced timelines to not overload the system (including v4 additions). So I wouldn't expect a greatly accelerated pace over what's on the books, and even recently BMW Group was still babbling about "We're adding 30,000 CCS chargers!'" with their partners, which I suspect will disappear in the noise and never be heard from again. I'd also be surprised if they offer free adapters until every other manufacturer announces they will, and even then will have to be pried out of Munich with a crowbar. It is BMW....

[exxxviii]

Originally Posted by Paladin1

I'd also be surprised if they offer free adapters until every other manufacturer announces they will, and even then will have to be pried out of Munich with a crowbar. It is BMW....

Ditto. Ford & Rivian said they are giving customers free adapters. GM, so far, looks like they are going to charge for them. I do not remember what everyone else said they are planning after that. I do not expect a free adapter from BMW. (I am counting the minutes for GM to onboard so my daughter can start charging her Bolt on Superchargers. CCS charging sucks in San Diego.)

[Kennethjk]

I actually think BMW will give the adapter free. Just a hunch

Ford is (mine should be here by April) and the number is well over 54k right now. BMW’s number will be way smaller.

Good PR.

[NomoTesla]

The adapter should be free for those of us stuck on v8. It's the least they could do! J/K!

[Pictor]

Originally Posted by Paladin1

BMW has never been known for its rapid adoption of anything.

Native iPod support, CarPlay, Wireless CarPlay... I see a pattern

But adoption of those technologies onto BMW's vehicles applied globally while this is very US specific. Although, what's there for BMW to adopt for J3400 other than the physical interoperability? Communication between the car and charging infrastructure is still ISO-15118. If this is predicated on plug-and-charge then anyone with a < 2023 would be SOL. It seems this is in T*'s court for adoption. The slow crawl seems to be with managing the potential for chaos if everyone is onboarded at the same time but I may be over simplifying it.

[iamdb]

Originally Posted by Pictor

Although, what's there for BMW to adopt for J3400 other than the physical interoperability?

I heard that it also requires changing the onboard AC charger to support 277v.

[bmwterp]

Originally Posted by exxxviii

"Early 2025" is the timeline BMW shared in their original press release that CCS drivers would get access.


BMW of North America Expands Electric Vehicle Charging Options for Customers in the U.S. and Canada with Access to Tesla Supercharger Network

Thanks for posting. I thought I saw somewhere that the announcement of 2025 was when BMW was going to change the charge point standard and there was questions on the when adapter will come into play. But, I suspect I could be wrong now.

Either way, I am excited for access to the SC network!

[Paladin1]

Originally Posted by iamdb

I heard that it also requires changing the onboard AC charger to support 277v.

According to BMW all their EV models will gain access to the NACS network in 2025 - including originally manufactured iXs. I can't imagine they plan to retrofit chargers in any if these, so I assume they will all work natively, in addition to which they all work with the Magic Dock superchargers right now.

[MAMOHT]

But with iX you have to double park and the charging speed will be very slow.