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The art issue is certainly similar to that of fake watches, but there is sometimes one key difference: the owners of some works of art authorize and profit from the creation of the replicas. So it's important to keep that distinction in mind for that is the legal difference between the two. Nonetheless, the legality of the matter doesn't alter whether one has a fake or not. Authorized fakes are still fakes and it's that aspect I sought to deal with because as I've said, the legal aspect isn't in question. All the best.
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I guess it hardly needs pointing out that the legality of owning "fake" anything varies by country. For instance here in the UK (IIRC) owning a fake/copy/replica is not illegal...while creating/distributing/selling is.
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![]() i couldn't do the fake thing myself just because i personally would know it's fake and that's enough for me.
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Off your high horse. Please. It's a forum, get over yourself.
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I don't get why he's on a "high horse" because of that statement. I mean, it is true! Inherently if you own something fake you will typically do some level of justification for going that route. Then there are the people who just wont do it because they prefer real, even if real means cheaper.
Me personally, I don't like fake stuff. I don't like non functional vents on cars, and I don't like fake watches. Buy something nice in your price range and be happy. Save up longer if you really must have something another level up. |
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I suppose we all have a threshold on spending. Some find value in a $6k watch while others may like the look, but don't see it as anything more than a tool to tell time (..hence the decision to buy a knock-off). There are some material goods that I am unwilling to represent as the real thing (..wheels, clothing, etc.), but there are other things that I just wouldn't pay the premium for, and would be willing to buy the knock-off item (..aerodynamic parts for cars, etc.). It's largely a value assessment.
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07-07-2014, 03:41 PM | #276 | |
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Without saying it outright, P1et dismissed all explanations made in favor of fake watches, stating that "when you are explaining, you're losing". I don't know about you or others, but to me that statement comes off as very high-brow and dismissive. I simply reminded him that's it's a forum FOR such discussions (and explanations), so dismissive remarks are kind of rude and out of line. If P1et was simply making an observation and not insinuating anything then that is 100% my bad and I apologize for speaking out. But it would be rare to see a statement like that not have a deeper meaning, so I felt it necessary to defend those explainers. In the end we are all car enthusiasts on an internet forum, so cheers to all!
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Every loser wants something for nothing. Especially the marque the name the prestige withouth having put in the effort or footing the bill that's requisite in owning a famous Swiss watch.
Then threres the frugal fakester, who refuses to put down 6-12k or more on a watch because he'd rather "invest" that money. Cool brah, but I bet if someone sold you a replica stock or a fraudulent investment, you'd probably wouldn't talk your way into accepting it as a good thing. So take a hammer to your fake Rolex and pick up a Michael Kors. |
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Whereas the fake watch purchase seems it could easily be an impulse buy doable by just about anyone, buying an authentic XYZ pricey watch is not remotely whimsical for the overwhelming majority of folks. I'd dare say that even those of us who have on several occasions spent large sums on watches don't just decide to spend that much for a watch because an odd thought crossed our minds over dinner or in a boring meeting. It's one thing to walk down the street and happen across a vendor selling fake "whatevers" and haggle a few bucks off the price and buy it. There's likely a sense of "fun" that some folks get from the experience alone, notwithstanding what satisfaction they take in the watch itself. It's wholly another to walk down the street and see that Piaget in the shop window and acting on one's compulsion to buy it. Not to say nobody has that as their reality, but it's just not one most folks will have, and yet the thrill of the impulse buy will be the same for the buyers of either watch. That's something that's price independent. All the best.
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Which invites the attack.. "If you're attacking, you're losing" ..? To the uninterested observer, it's just two people fighting. Who shouldn't laugh otherwise more-so uninterested observers of the uninterested observers would then proceed to state: "Don't you have anything better to do than to watch others fight?" and so on, so on |
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When you knowingly buy a fake watch it is mostly for fun. It's cheap enough to be an impulse buy or something you'd like to try out. Sometimes you like the style enough to go and buy the real deal. Other times you have a laugh and throw it into the box of toy watches to give away or trash. It's a piece of fashion, just as you'll find the same style and color shirts at Macys as you find at Saks, you can get the same style watches at different price brackets. The guy who can afford a $100 watch is not the guy who can afford a $8k watch. That guy is not a watch collector, know or care about a company's heritage or particular watch movement. They just want something that looks cool.
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Losers and winners in every argument. If you're a fakester, I don't see how you can be a winner. That shit is fake, and if you accept fakery in your life, well that speaks volumes for you as a person.
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