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      01-08-2019, 08:26 PM   #155
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Just to be pointedly correct, the campaign promise was to build the wall at Mexico's expense. Therefore, to be technically correct, it's only fulfilling a campaign promise once there's a cheque in hand from the Mexican government, no?
No. However the expense will be recouped during 45's first term.
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...crack down on people hiring illegal immigrants, and overstaying their visas...
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I've said this at least a handful of times but perhaps you missed it so I'll repeat myself... Border security is a much larger issue than illegal immigration. Actually illegal immigration is only a subset of border security. Having effective border security brings far more value than only curbing illegal immigration. A secure border would dramatically reduce trafficking of weapons, drugs, people, etc...
Let's talk about this.

First weapons. Weapons don't need to be smuggled in, we have over 300 million firearms already in this country. Not to say some I'm sure to come across the border, but it would be an insignificant amount.

Second drugs. They already tunnel under the fencing we have. It's not going to even make a speed bump in the drug trade.

Lastly, people. More people are trafficked in via aircraft than walked across.

Every terrorist event we have had in this country has been either by a US citizen or someone who came across our borders legally.

There isn't an invasion from the south. We have soooo many other problems.

I totally agree that the bigger problems we have in this country are because of companies hiring illegal immigrants. You dry up the jobs these people are making the journey for, they will stop coming.
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What the ####?

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., used a strange – and sexually charged – phrase to describe to the Washington Post her plan for implementing a progressive agenda.

“... enjoy being exhausted for the next two years while we run train on the progressive agenda,” the newly minted congresswoman told the newspaper.


#Metoo pink hats are in front of her home. Right?
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      01-16-2019, 05:19 PM   #158
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Weapons don't need to be smuggled in, we have over 300 million firearms already in this country. Not to say some I'm sure to come across the border, but it would be an insignificant amount.
When I mentioned weapons I was primarily recalling Mexico pointing to the US as the source for a high percentage of their illegal firearms. Perhaps you remember President Obama's "Fast and Furious" gunwalking scandal?

The barrier would impede trafficking in both directions. 💡
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Yeah, there is also this tweet from her:

To quote Alan Moore: “None of you understand. I'm not locked up in here with YOU. You're locked up in here with ME.” Let me try and save folks some time here. You cannot rein in Latinas. They rein you in. #YearOfTheLatina #FutureIsLatina



And also, this scary shit...

Lord Help Us All: AOC Will Have a Hand In America's Finances
Democratic Socialist Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) is set to join the House Financial Services Committee, which is chaired by none other than Rep. Maxine Walters (D-CA).

This is what the Committee does, as described on their website:

The Committee oversees all components of the nation’s housing and financial services sectors including banking, insurance, real estate, public and assisted housing, and securities. The Committee continually reviews the laws and programs relating to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, the Federal Reserve Bank, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and international development and finance agencies such as the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. The Committee also ensures enforcement of housing and consumer protection laws such as the U.S. Housing Act, the Truth In Lending Act, the Housing and Community Development Act, the Fair Credit Reporting Act, the Real Estate Settlement Procedures Act, the Community Reinvestment Act, and financial privacy laws.
My underlying point was the lack of outrage. Hell, lack of anything.
If the Sheriff of Snookenbauch Texas would have used Run a Train On in any way it would be on CNN and his immediate resignation demanded. Yet a member of congress gets to say it because a female democrat?
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      01-16-2019, 10:14 PM   #160
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in 1976 Gov. Brendan Byrne D-NJ instituted his state's first income tax. The tax was set at 2% under 200K and 3.5% above. State sales tax was 3%. All rates crept upwards over the years until Gov. Bill Murphy D-NJ recently set the new rates at 7% on income and 7% on sales. Next year he wants 8% on sales and says he's still working income tax rates. All this while he declares NJ to be a sanctuary state.
So anyway doubling (or so) the tax rates after 50 years doesn't seem so bad....until you factor in that average incomes in NJ have increased 20 fold (or more) in the same time period.
do THAT math.
where's the phucking money?
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You dudes are so worried about AOC and what she "might" do. How about focusing on what she "is" doing: Leading the charge to find a missing member of congress who may be in real trouble.

Where are you, Mitch? We so worried.
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You dudes are so worried about AOC and what she "might" do. How about focusing on what she "is" doing: Leading the charge to find a missing member of congress who may be in real trouble.

Where are you, Mitch? We so worried.
Oh damn she's FBI now as well?
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Oh damn she's FBI now as well?
Nope, just a concerned fellow member of congress. Mitch could be dead in a ditch somewhere. At least someone is out there looking for him. I'm sure he's disoriented and desperate to get back to work so the Senate can take up a vote on the bipartisan bill the house passed to open up the government.
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Nope, just a concerned fellow member of congress. Mitch could be dead in a ditch somewhere. At least someone is out there looking for him. I'm sure he's disoriented and desperate to get back to work so the Senate can take up a vote on the bipartisan bill the house passed to open up the government.
I hope he didn't get suicided!!!
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      01-17-2019, 06:09 PM   #165
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Oh damn she's FBI now as well?
Nope, just a concerned fellow member of congress. Mitch could be dead in a ditch somewhere. At least someone is out there looking for him. I'm sure he's disoriented and desperate to get back to work so the Senate can take up a vote on the bipartisan bill the house passed to open up the government.
yes DET, I also enjoyed immensely the spectacle of AOC's Mission To Find Mitch, as she and her oh-so-concerned posse marched back and forth from one end of the capital to the other, even descending into the bowels of the massive building to the train that would take them to the Russell office building, where presumably she expected to find "Mitch's office". Alas, after a search that rivaled the saga of Stanley & Livingston in sheer drama, our Intrepid Young Democrat was forced to give up. So sad.
Too bad she didn't call Poiseuille Jr who could have told her even when he was in Middle School that the Republican Leader could be found in the The Republican Leader's Office in the central portion of the Capital, about 25' from Statuary Hall where it's been for the last 40 yrs. It is officially The Howard Baker Suite and aside from being the largest single office in the building it was originally The Library of Congress until the space was taken over by the House of Representatives when it moved to the capital in 1800. The House end and the Senate end were still being built. AOC probably walked past the very large bronze plaque pictured below several times in her search. You can also see the plaque in the first picture to the left of the flag. I bet Pelosi Galore was laughing her ass off watching all this from her office. Mitch was probably at his desk being an adult.
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      01-17-2019, 06:12 PM   #166
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I know that everyone including DET will appreciate two of the portraits on the walls of The Leader's office. DET will immediately recognize Everett Dirksen and Robert Taft.
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Oh damn she's FBI now as well?
Nope, just a concerned fellow member of congress. Mitch could be dead in a ditch somewhere. At least someone is out there looking for him. I'm sure he's disoriented and desperate to get back to work so the Senate can take up a vote on the bipartisan bill the house passed to open up the government.
yes DET, I also enjoyed immensely the spectacle of AOC's Mission To Find Mitch, as she and her oh-so-concerned posse marched back and forth from one end of the capital to the other, even descending into the bowels of the massive building to the train that would take them to the Russell office building, where presumably she expected to find "Mitch's office". Alas, after a search that rivaled the saga of Stanley & Livingston in sheer drama, our Intrepid Young Democrat was forced to give up. So sad.
Too bad she didn't call Poiseuille Jr who could have told her even when he was in Middle School that the Republican Leader could be found in the The Republican Leader's Office in the central portion of the Capital, about 25' from Statuary Hall where it's been for the last 40 yrs. It is officially The Howard Baker Suite and aside from being the largest single office in the building it was originally The Library of Congress until the space was taken over by the House of Representatives when it moved to the capital in 1800. The House end and the Senate end were still being built. AOC probably walked past the very large bronze plaque pictured below several times in her search. You can also see the plaque in the first picture to the left of the flag. I bet Pelosi Galore was laughing her ass off watching all this from her office. Mitch was probably at his desk being an adult.
Lol, well played, sir.
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this has been tried by Trudeau in Canada, the net result has been less taxes paid as the rich have moved their jobs, money and life offshore. They have the accountants and lawyers to do it. So rather than collecting more money the government has in fact lost tax revenue. I doubt the US will be any different.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/poli...-2016-despite/
well Grumpy, it turns out we've been worried for no reason because AOC has had it all covered all along. just this very evening AOC has revealed her plan for paying for all this crazy shit, and here it is:
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I notice Fox is a little obsessed with this woman. She has literally been on the front page of their site daily for the last month. They also make sure they take the shot that makes her look the most nuts lol
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I notice Fox is a little obsessed with this woman. She has literally been on the front page of their site daily for the last month. They also make sure they take the shot that makes her look the most nuts lol
You can almost tell the bias of a media outlet by the pictures of a particular leader they use in their photos, doesn't matter left or right.
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I notice Fox is a little obsessed with this woman. She has literally been on the front page of their site daily for the last month. They also make sure they take the shot that makes her look the most nuts lol
Let's be honest... Both ends of the political spectrum are "obsessed" with her.
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Let's be honest... Both ends of the political spectrum are "obsessed" with her.
Yes, the left adores her and she is the bain of the right. Maybe she'll be the democratic candidate in the future and if elected she will do more damage to the US than anyone before her.
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You can almost tell the bias of a media outlet by the pictures of a particular leader they use in their photos, doesn't matter left or right.
I googled this woman in image search... and about 90% of her pics make her look insane so...
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Yes, the left adores her and she is the bain of the right. Maybe she'll be the democratic candidate in the future and if elected she will do more damage to the US than anyone before her.
Yeah. Universal medicare, tuition-free public college and trade school, accessible housing for all, campaign-finance reform, etc. All sounds really bad
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Yeah. Universal medicare, tuition-free public college and trade school, accessible housing for all, campaign-finance reform, etc. All sounds really bad
Anybody with sense knows to beware of a person who promises a free lunch. The best way to be conned is to look for a free lunch. This is how politicians prey on unsophisticated rubes.
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Anybody with sense knows to beware of a person who promises a free lunch. The best way to be conned is to look for a free lunch. This is how politicians prey on unsophisticated rubes.
The same unsophisticated rubes who are promised a chicken in every pot.
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