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      11-30-2018, 10:52 PM   #111
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      12-01-2018, 02:40 AM   #112
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I would just fire everyone who was involved in the creation of this monstrosity.
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      12-01-2018, 08:31 AM   #113
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Real Bimmerfans know about how different the approaches of BMW concept cars can be. Some are for design purposes, some are "Technologieträger" - pure tech concepts where design is 2nd row or far future.
iNext seems to be the latter. I'm sure the final design will be different even though for my taste it may stick with the general i design.

Here's a nice overview about BMW concept cars. From cry ugly to awesome beauty
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      12-01-2018, 09:35 AM   #114
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Most new BMW designs have become embarrassing, including this.
The gigantic grills are hideous. There is not much subtlety to their designs anymore. Shame.
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      12-01-2018, 10:23 AM   #115
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What an ugly pos.
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      12-01-2018, 10:51 AM   #116
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Very exciting project this.

Really look forward to see how the car will actually look and if any of the vision features make it into production.
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      12-01-2018, 01:46 PM   #117
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      12-01-2018, 10:37 PM   #118
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you're all tripping this thing is cool.
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      12-01-2018, 10:54 PM   #119
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It’s hideous. I have no words
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      12-02-2018, 12:34 AM   #120
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So I went the auto show today and this car was not there. I asked one of the eye candy women and they said that I was sent to Miami. 🤔
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      12-02-2018, 06:07 AM   #121
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The taycan will definitely steal sales from all other models though. The model 3 is not a viable long term product for them at that price since they're taking a loss with each sale. Either a price hike or bankruptcy will happen at their current state.
I’m sure nobody at BMW will mind me taking this thread off topic since they are rightfully being raked over the coals over this embarrasing and hideous concept, but...

Tesla’s gross profit margin on Model 3 is currently over 20% according to their latest quarterly earnings report in October which is huge. It’s a very profitable car for them now, not so much in the beginning of production but your data us outdated. They were making less than 5% for a while but have been able to push profitability up rapidly.
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      12-02-2018, 07:35 AM   #122
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And that Mission E will cost $100+k. Nah, in $35k-$45k, Tesla Model 3 is the king!
The lowest priced Model 3 is $46,000 with no options. If you don't get the $5,000 Autopilot option, there is no point in buying the Tesla. So really the lowest price Model 3 is $51,000. Count in 5 years of fuel savings (Tesla speak) it's still $39,200.
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      12-02-2018, 08:21 AM   #123
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I’m sure nobody at BMW will mind me taking this thread off topic since they are rightfully being raked over the coals over this embarrasing and hideous concept, but...

Tesla’s gross profit margin on Model 3 is currently over 20% according to their latest quarterly earnings report in October which is huge. It’s a very profitable car for them now, not so much in the beginning of production but your data us outdated. They were making less than 5% for a while but have been able to push profitability up rapidly.
Accounting tricks being what they are, just straight math shows, bearing that most of Telsa's $11.6B in debt is coming due in 36 months, it needs to build approximately 8,000 Model 3 per week at 20% gross profit margin on the Model 3. Shareholders generally prefer net profit numbers. It has one plant facility manufacturing three (3) different models of cars. The Numi plant was capable of 500,000 units per year, GM/Toyota built 450,000 at peak production of just a single model car. Yup, Tesla is adding onto the plant, but that takes time and lots of money. My math aligns with Musk's stated goal of building 10,000 Model 3 per week, but he's only at 5,000 - 7,000 per week now.

So in simple math that's over 1.1 million Model 3 to be purchased in 3 years. It's possible over 1 million people will want a Model 3 in that time period and if there is company infrastructure to support that level of customer ownership without any privately owned and run dealership infrastructure. At some point not everyone wants the same car as everyone else has and other EVs are coming on line soon. GM has a bunch in the pipeline based on it's EV platform, and the Bolt is a lower-priced EV than the Model 3. GM has huge manufacturing capability. All interesting stuff.

Here's to hoping he can pull it off.
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      12-02-2018, 09:09 AM   #124
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Can't wait for the iLast to debut.
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      12-02-2018, 03:40 PM   #125
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So I went the auto show today and this car was not there. I asked one of the eye candy women and they said that I was sent to Miami. ��
btw. now we all know why they first presented it in some dark airplane belly...

The response at the show must have been so brutally honest, that they decided for it to have an early retirement witch would in fact very well explain why it was sent to Miami
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      12-02-2018, 11:55 PM   #126
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So I went the auto show today and this car was not there. I asked one of the eye candy women and they said that I was sent to Miami. 🤔
It should be sent to a crusher.
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      12-03-2018, 08:29 AM   #127
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The only true solution to this thing.
+1,000

And I drive a 530e so I am not against electric vehicles...just plug ugly ones.
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Can't wait for the iLast to debut.
Better prepare to say goodbye to petrol
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      12-03-2018, 11:10 AM   #129
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This is simply a design exercise. It's more akin to the roadster they did a few years back that had shape shifting fabric as the body panels. It's ugly, but it's not like a concept that is slated for production. Yes it's hideous, but doubtful anything that looks like it will ever make it into production.
..I think the grill is a harbinger of the nose on the upcoming 3-coupe...
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Real Bimmerfans know about how different the approaches of BMW concept cars can be. Some are for design purposes, some are "Technologieträger" - pure tech concepts where design is 2nd row or far future.
iNext seems to be the latter. I'm sure the final design will be different even though for my taste it may stick with the general i design.

Here's a nice overview about BMW concept cars. From cry ugly to awesome beauty

Thanks for that link.... interesting.. 1999 early iDrive was neat to see


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I love the looks of the i8. And the i3 had some neat design elements even if the car overall wasn't that pretty. But this is BMW going in the completely wrong direction.
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      12-03-2018, 07:11 PM   #132
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The guy that design this EV needs to work for Bmw
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