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      01-18-2019, 11:11 AM   #573
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Dude has the Dems on lock so bad that they can't even go "wheels up" without his permission. And lets not even go into the joke of candidates they are putting against him for 2020.
It was a military plane, he's CiC. His leaking of their travel plans made them decide the security risk was too great to move to commercial flights.
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It was a military plane, he's CiC. His leaking of their travel plans made them decide the security risk was too great to move to commercial flights.
Another thing future congresses from both sides of the aisle will be looking at in the future with regards to Executive power.
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The majority of his party wants effective border security. The numbers I've seen is 80% of Republicans support a barrier at the border, with 70% strongly supporting a barrier at the border.
A barrier alone is not an effective border security solution. In fact, there are more effective ways to increase security.
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Border rancher: "We've found prayer rugs out here. It's unreal." Washington Examiner People coming across the Southern Border from many countries, some of which would be a big surprise.



The phrase "dumb fuck" comes to mind......
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Given all the recent developments regarding Trump in the past 24 hours, trying to get funding for a wall that a majority in this country don't want should be the least of his worries.
The majority of his party wants effective border security. The numbers I've seen is 80% of Republicans support a barrier at the border, with 70% strongly supporting a barrier at the border.
Like all the people, all the cheering Muslims in New Jersey on 9/11?
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The phrase "dumb fuck" comes to mind......
Why would they leave them and how does she know they are prayer rugs and not just blankets?
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Why would they leave them and how does she know they are prayer rugs and not just blankets?
OMG!! Prayer rugs in my garage!
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My mom no longer drives.
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The majority of his party wants effective border security. The numbers I've seen is 80% of Republicans support a barrier at the border, with 70% strongly supporting a barrier at the border.
A barrier alone is not an effective border security solution.
Nice red herring you got there.
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Given all the recent developments regarding Trump in the past 24 hours, trying to get funding for a wall that a majority in this country don't want should be the least of his worries.
The majority of his party wants effective border security. The numbers I've seen is 80% of Republicans support a barrier at the border, with 70% strongly supporting a barrier at the border.
Like all the people, all the cheering Muslims in New Jersey on 9/11?
I wasn't in Paterson NJ on 9/11 (I was in Manhattan) but I can confirm two things about this story.

1. As early as 9/12/01 people in NJ were talking about the celebrations that occurred in Paterson NJ. I can't confirm the celebrations actually happened, but people in NJ were definitely abuzz about them as soon as the day after.

2. I know the area very well... The idea that there were some people in Paterson celebrating is entirely plausible.
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Why would they leave [their prayer rugs]?
I agree with this.
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I wasn't in Paterson NJ on 9/11 (I was in Manhattan) but I can confirm two things about this story.

1. As early as 9/12/01 people in NJ were talking about the celebrations that occurred in Paterson NJ. I can't confirm the celebrations actually happened, but people in NJ were definitely abuzz about them as soon as the day after.

2. I know the area very well... The idea that there were some people in Paterson celebrating is entirely plausible.
I hope you didn't find any prayer mats in your yard! Damn bordercrossers are leaving them everywhere. And it sounds like Patterson my be a prime location for them to head towards!
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I wasn't in Paterson NJ on 9/11 (I was in Manhattan) but I can confirm two things about this story.

1. As early as 9/12/01 people in NJ were talking about the celebrations that occurred in Paterson NJ. I can't confirm the celebrations actually happened, but people in NJ were definitely abuzz about them as soon as the day after.

2. I know the area very well... The idea that there were some people in Paterson celebrating is entirely plausible.
I hope you didn't find any prayer mats in your yard! Damn bordercrossers are leaving them everywhere. And it sounds like Patterson my be a prime location for them to head towards!
That's not a joke. The jerkoff terrorist (Sayfullo Saipov) that rented a Home Depot truck to run down people on the west side of Manhattan on October 30, 2017 resided in Paterson. It's almost like a little NJ-style Daesh caliphate over there.

Statistic found on Wikipedia: Paterson has the second-largest Muslim population in the United States by percentage. Paterson has been nicknamed Little Ramallah and contains a neighborhood with the same name in South Paterson, with an Arab American population estimated as high as 20,000 in 2015, serving as the center of Paterson's growing Syrian American and Palestinian American populations.
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Looks like Trump is making an announcement tomorrow: I am gonna guess he will say that Allowing the Federal workers to miss paychecks (one so far) is not acceptable..just because Schumer and Pelosi don't want border security and He (the President) will sign a bi-partism Bill . He will take it on his own to keep America Safe. Dems will have lost big time. They fucked up royally (IMO- I could be wrong)
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Looks like Trump is making an announcement tomorrow: I am gonna guess he will say that Allowing the Federal workers to miss paychecks (one so far) is not acceptable..just because Schumer and Pelosi don't want border security and He (the President) will sign a bi-partism Bill . He will take it on his own to keep America Safe. Dems will have lost big time. They fucked up royally (IMO- I could be wrong)
It could be an announcement about the SOTU address being relocated. Just a guess.
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Looks like Trump is making an announcement tomorrow: I am gonna guess he will say that Allowing the Federal workers to miss paychecks (one so far) is not acceptable..just because Schumer and Pelosi don't want border security and He (the President) will sign a bi-partism Bill . He will take it on his own to keep America Safe. Dems will have lost big time. They fucked up royally (IMO- I could be wrong)
My take is most US citizens want better border security, me included. Regarding the so-called wall, I still believe Trump would’ve enjoyed a bit more support from both sides of the aisle if he wasn’t such a dick about it. Holding government workers hostage is nothing more than extorsion and gains few, if any, friends.
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Looks like Trump is making an announcement tomorrow: I am gonna guess he will say that Allowing the Federal workers to miss paychecks (one so far) is not acceptable..just because Schumer and Pelosi don't want border security and He (the President) will sign a bi-partism Bill . He will take it on his own to keep America Safe. Dems will have lost big time. They fucked up royally (IMO- I could be wrong)
He will be 100% right if he actually says that it is unacceptable for federal employees to miss paychecks because of political pissing matches. He can try to pin it on the dems, but the majority of people will still blame him.

If he signs a bipartisan bill that doesn't include money for the wall, he will be doing the right thing, but he will be the loser because he would be the first to blink.

Border security is important, but you get it by working with people from the other party, not by threatening and throwing temper tantrums.
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If he signs a bipartisan bill that doesn't include money for the wall, he will be doing the right thing, but he will be the loser because he would be the first to blink.
According to the Dems he will be the loser but to the American people and the workers he will have won, I doubt that anyone except the Dems care about winning and losing. The people have won. And most of them are smart enough to know what this fight was about..border security (again for the people). Keep drinking the Blue Koolaid.
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He will be 100% right if he actually says that it is unacceptable for federal employees to miss paychecks because of political pissing matches. He can try to pin it on the dems, but the majority of people will still blame him.

If he signs a bipartisan bill that doesn't include money for the wall, he will be doing the right thing, but he will be the loser because he would be the first to blink.
Since you're framing both of the above situations as being a complete losing proposition for POTUS politically; what's his political motivation to go with either of those routes? There isn't one.

A compromise allows both sides to save face. Unfortunately the Democrats painted themselves in a corner where they can't provide any funding at all for a physical barrier without looking like a cave.
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