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      01-11-2019, 05:15 PM   #23
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It’s an executive position. He’s served his whole career as an executive. Unless they were governors, no career politicians have any executive experience..
Thank you. I get worn out trying to explain the obvious to him. Notice how we are talking about a retiring chief justice of the supreme court, and he immediately attempts to tie it to anti-Trump talk.

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Thank you. I get worn out trying to explain the obvious to him. Notice how we are talking about a retiring chief justice of the supreme court, and he immediately attempts to tie it to anti-Trump talk.

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Haha. They are completely obsessed.
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Yes, but to just dismiss the job of POTUS as a simple politician not needing any credentials as a surgeon does for its job seems little simplistic and discounts the importance and integrity of that role, no?

Well i mean i guess not. Proof: DJT is the president.
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Thank you. I get worn out trying to explain the obvious to him. Notice how we are talking about a retiring chief justice of the supreme court, and he immediately attempts to tie it to anti-Trump talk.

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Haha. They are completely obsessed.
In my opinion the best prepared persons for the Presidency are Governors. They have sat in the big chair alone and know how to make hard choices. Senators, being mere voices in a chorus, tend t be a bit dodgy in my estimation. A notable exception would be Mr. Carter. He managed to bung it up despite having experience as a naval officer in the silent service under the inestimable Admiral Rickover AND having been a successful governor.

And I wonder if Sass and Canada would be better off if he spent half as much time attempting to improve his country as much as he meddles with ours...
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Yes, but to just dismiss the job of POTUS as a simple politician not needing any credentials as a surgeon does for its job seems little simplistic and discounts the importance and integrity of that role, no?

Well i mean i guess not. Proof: DJT is the president.
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It's an executive position. He's served his whole career as an executive. Unless they were governors, no career politicians have any executive experience..
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Thank you. I get worn out trying to explain the obvious to him. Notice how we are talking about a retiring chief justice of the supreme court, and he immediately attempts to tie it to anti-Trump talk.

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Haha. They are completely obsessed.
In my opinion the best prepared persons for the Presidency are Governors. They have sat in the big chair alone and know how to make hard choices. Senators, being mere voices in a chorus, tend t be a bit dodgy in my estimation. A notable exception would be Mr. Carter. He managed to bung it up despite having experience as a naval officer in the silent service under the inestimable Admiral Rickover AND having been a successful governor.

And I wonder if Sass and Canada would be better off if he spent half as much time attempting to improve his country as much as he meddles with ours...
If it makes you feel better I get involved locally, but mostly charity work.

Last tome I checked the purpose of this forum is to talk politics?

Somehow I think if I was blowing trump in every post you wouldn't be saying the same thing?
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I have two points to contribute here...

1. I'll be surprised if Justice Ginsburg is still a member of the SCOTUS by Valentines Day. She is obviously frail and 85 years old... But I also generate this guess due to my contention that her condition is far worse than they're letting on. As an example I'd like to point out that literally days before they announced her latest cancer treatment, there were press reports about how well she was recovering from her cracked ribs.

2. Amy Coney Barrett will be nominated to replace Justice Ginsburg.
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I think its highly possible. It "MIGHT" eliminate the DemocRats from assuming that if its a Man he was probably a former rapist. And I would bet that Blasey-Ford would re-appear and claim he tried to rape her.

Only Death will mean that Ginsburg retires. But the problem the Dems will have is that it looks like the Repubs will continue to hold the Senate and possibly gain another seat. The Republicans will not allow another Sotomayor, to be confirmed.
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I think its highly possible. It "MIGHT" eliminate the DemocRats from assuming that if its a Man he was probably a former rapist. And I would bet that Blasey-Ford would re-appear and claim he tried to rape her.

Only Death will mean that Ginsburg retires. But the problem the Dems will have is that it looks like the Repubs will continue to hold the Senate and possibly gain another seat. The Republicans will not allow another Sotomayor, to be confirmed.
Well we know what the argument against Barrett will be... Christianity. Sen. Feinstein already attacked her during her federal judicial nomination, saying she was controversial because "The Dogma Lives Loudly Within [her]."
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Yes, but to just dismiss the job of POTUS as a simple politician not needing any credentials as a surgeon does for its job seems little simplistic and discounts the importance and integrity of that role, no?

Well i mean i guess not. Proof: DJT is the president.
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Thank you. I get worn out trying to explain the obvious to him. Notice how we are talking about a retiring chief justice of the supreme court, and he immediately attempts to tie it to anti-Trump talk.

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Haha. They are completely obsessed.
In my opinion the best prepared persons for the Presidency are Governors. They have sat in the big chair alone and know how to make hard choices. Senators, being mere voices in a chorus, tend t be a bit dodgy in my estimation. A notable exception would be Mr. Carter. He managed to bung it up despite having experience as a naval officer in the silent service under the inestimable Admiral Rickover AND having been a successful governor.

And I wonder if Sass and Canada would be better off if he spent half as much time attempting to improve his country as much as he meddles with ours...
If it makes you feel better I get involved locally, but mostly charity work.

Last tome I checked the purpose of this forum is to talk politics?

Somehow I think if I was blowing trump in every post you wouldn't be saying the same thing?
Please blow Trump in private.
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Its weird to see some on the right get actually excited about the potential death of one of our SC justices. In any event, I saw an article tonight that showed that she was cancer free and returning to hearings next week.


And the questioning to Coney Barrett doesn't constitute an "attack on Christianity" when she has sworn an oath to a particular subgroup of the religion. Folks would (rightly so) question the same thing of any other religious individual who had pledged an oath to their particular brand of faith.
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Its weird to see some on the right get actually excited about the potential death of one of our SC justices. In any event, I saw an article tonight that showed that she was cancer free and returning to hearings next week.


And the questioning to Coney Barrett doesn't constitute an "attack on Christianity" when she has sworn an oath to a particular subgroup of the religion. Folks would (rightly so) question the same thing of any other religious individual who had pledged an oath to their particular brand of faith.
The discussi9n here is regard8ng her retirement. I’d bet my last dollar she WILL NOT be sitting for any hearings next week. We’ll see. And I remember the liberal scumbags out in full force celebrating Scalia’s death. Nowhere in this thread is there anybody on the right celebrating her potential death.
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The discussi9n here is regard8ng her retirement. I’d bet my last dollar she WILL NOT be sitting for any hearings next week. We’ll see. And I remember the liberal scumbags out in full force celebrating Scalia’s death. Nowhere in this thread is there anybody on the right celebrating her potential death.
Nor did I indicate as such.

I'm not sure why we would be talking about Scalia given that thats not the topic at hand, but those that celebrate any SCJ's death are to be looked down upon.
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...questioning to Coney Barrett doesn't constitute an "attack on Christianity" when she has sworn an oath to a particular subgroup of the religion. Folks would (rightly so) question the same thing of any other religious individual who had pledged an oath to their particular brand of faith.
First, doesn't every practicing religious person "swear an oath?" Surely you're aware there shall be no religious test for the position. Christians aren't excluded.
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First, doesn't every practicing religious person "swear an oath?" Surely you're aware there shall be no religious test for the position. Christians aren't excluded.
I was brought up in the Catholic Church, went to parochial school, a marianist highschool and a Jesuit University and have never been asked to pledge an oath to any sort of spiritual advisor. Barrett's particular sect of Catholicism implies that she could favor her religion over the letter of the law.

Simply asking questions about that does not constitute a religious test.
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They better be careful going after her for being catholic. The illegal immigrants might not appreciate that much and vote republican. That would sure as shit shut down the illegal border crossings.


Pelosi would have a mine field there within a week.
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Its weird to see some on the right get actually excited about the potential death of one of our SC justices. In any event, I saw an article tonight that showed that she was cancer free and returning to hearings next week.


And the questioning to Coney Barrett doesn't constitute an "attack on Christianity" when she has sworn an oath to a particular subgroup of the religion. Folks would (rightly so) question the same thing of any other religious individual who had pledged an oath to their particular brand of faith.
For starters, if it was announced that the President had cancer most on the left would be dancing in the streets, you know it, I know it, everybody knows it.

It's been reported by every news outlet hours ago that the Ginsburg camp informed the court that she will NOT be attending court next week.

In Drs calling her "cancer free" only 2 weeks after surgery
reeks of pure political spin. I never heard a Doc making such an outrageous statement. As we all know cancer has a sneaky way of moving around( metastasize) from the original sight of a tumor.

Funny, I just Stopped to look something up to make my point and came across this article which is saying more eloquently what I was trying to say. I'll just post it up.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...cancer/578869/
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First, doesn't every practicing religious person "swear an oath?" Surely you're aware there shall be no religious test for the position. Christians aren't excluded.
I was brought up in the Catholic Church, went to parochial school, a marianist highschool and a Jesuit University and have never been asked to pledge an oath to any sort of spiritual advisor. Barrett's particular sect of Catholicism implies that she could favor her religion over the letter of the law.

Simply asking questions about that does not constitute a religious test.
First I'm calling BS on your first statement. I don't want to debate it, but you might want to reference the first of the Ten Commandments.

It might constitute a religious test if Senators use her religion as a determining factor, or even a contributing factor. Religion needs to be a non factor completely. That's why they should be very careful about any insinuation or questions that imply that religion is part of their decision.
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It might constitute a religious test if Senators use her religion as a determining factor, or even a contributing factor. Religion needs to be a non factor completely. That's why they should be very careful about any insinuation or questions that imply that religion is part of their decision.
If it is determined that her religion is the primary part of her decision process, should it not be part of theirs? A religious test is about barring someone because of the mere presence of their religion. AKA, barring someone from being a SCJ because they are muslim would constitute a religious test. Seeking clarification from a prospective SCJ about their decision making abilities related to country vs faith would not.
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If it is determined that her religion is the primary part of her decision process, should it not be part of theirs? A religious test is about barring someone because of the mere presence of their religion. AKA, barring someone from being a SCJ because they are muslim would constitute a religious test. Seeking clarification from a prospective SCJ about their decision making abilities related to country vs faith would not.
No... No... No! Religion should absolutely NOT be part of the decision process! That is the damn entire point! The Constitution needs to be the one and only part of her decision process. That's why any and all questions should be in reference to the Constitution. It is entirely and completely inappropriate to even reference someone's religious beliefs.
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Fake news. She's in excellent health.

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Yes, but to just dismiss the job of POTUS as a simple politician not needing any credentials as a surgeon does for its job seems little simplistic and discounts the importance and integrity of that role, no?

Well i mean i guess not. Proof: DJT is the president.
It’s an executive position. He’s served his whole career as an executive. Unless they were governors, no career politicians have any executive experience..
Yup. The last guy was a community organizer (whatever the fuck that is) for Christ's sakes
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It’s an executive position. He’s served his whole career as an executive. Unless they were governors, no career politicians have any executive experience..
Thank you. I get worn out trying to explain the obvious to him. Notice how we are talking about a retiring chief justice of the supreme court, and he immediately attempts to tie it to anti-Trump talk.

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It's an executive position. He's served his whole career as an executive. Unless they were governors, no career politicians have any executive experience..
Thank you. I get worn out trying to explain the obvious to him. Notice how we are talking about a retiring chief justice of the supreme court, and he immediately attempts to tie it to anti-Trump talk.

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TDS is strong with this one
TDS is a term used by trump cult followers. It's not unlike how muslims call non believers infidels.

It's a coping mechanism used by trump followers which basically means: I'm so unable to see the truth and hold trump to account to anything, and the only way to shit out people with valid arguments is to dismiss them as TDS"

You guys didn't invent that BTW. Every cult follower has its own version
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