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      01-13-2019, 04:43 PM   #89
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But you blindly mimic the bullshit talking points of the moronic, zealous left.
Thatís all he ever does. He hounds the shit out of you if you donít answer his stupid questions, and if you do rebut them with facts as you just did, he ignores them. Heís a waste of time.
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Are you drunk?
I think the thought of Ginsburg dying has unhinged him. His brain is exploding. If Trump can replace 3 Justices, total Socialism is dead in this country for a generation.
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So you think Trump is a puppet of of Russia.
Yes. You can lump me into the majority with that. My spider senses were up on that before the investigation by Mueller started. They were up after the known lies about the Trump tower meeting obviously not being about adoption.

Remember from the the start how he denied he or anyone in his campaign had any ties what so ever to russia and this whole investigation was made up? Why would they all lie about that? It has been coming out that there have been multiple examples with most recently the head of his campaign sharing polling data with a known russian agent: Konstantin Kilimnik, someone with known ties to russian intelligence. This is on top of all the other people shown to have lied about their meetings and dealings with Russia. You can believe your FBI is blind with bias, but personally I think they is more integrity than that. I believe they did have enough to warrant an investigation - we'll see I guess.

Trump has essentially been pushing Russia's agenda. Im sorry if Fox news doesnt provide you with that (i know I check it every day), but if you came to your own opinion after looking at all sources before making your own decision you might come to yoru own conclusion not one generation from an echo chamber.

You are correct that there have been sanctions etc, but if you recall those were put forth by your senate, and not ordered by Trump. He definitely has not been the "hardest president against Russia ever". Total horse shit. He says your CIA lies, FBI lies, Mueller lies, etc etc, but in a heartbeat says he believe putin because Putin says so. Remember when Trump was actually still fighting the assertion that Russia meddled in the election?

Im not part of the "left" as you point out. Just like I dont think Trump is a good representation of the GOP and the values they stand for.

Why you bring up Hilary is puzzling to me. She isnt the president, and is beyond meaningless today. That said you and I would probably both agree she is extremely corrupt, a total lier and would make a terrible president.

You'd have to be blind, or only watching Hannity not to see that Trump has acted VERY odd when it comes to Putin and Russia. You know about as much as I do when it comes to the actual investigation (nothing), so we are both left with coming to our own best guess. Mine is Trump is a puppet and/or a willing or unknowing agent of Russia.

Time will tell once the investigation come out. Should it finish showing Trump was 100% innocent ill be the first person to admit my judgement was wrong. Do you have the ability to do the same if the investigation says otherwise?

That said Ill still think he is a piece of trash given he's a racist, terrible to his family, narcissist and compulsive lier. If you still see value in a person like then then all the power you to you.
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I understand the context of laughter, followed by the 'wasn't that cute' face he made, just fine.
McConnell sure wiped that smile off his face. That was epic.
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That's all he ever does. He hounds the shit out of you if you don't answer his stupid questions, and if you do rebut them with facts as you just did, he ignores them. He's a waste of time.
I respond to everyone who quotes basically 100% of the time. Ill always answer a question someone asks me. As you learned the hard way you need to come prepared to debate with me or else I will completely unravel your "argument" as I did when you made the assertion that wide spread voting fraud was "common knowledge".

Want to keep debating me be my guest. As I said above you'll always get a response from me. Timing simply depends on my schedule.

If there is one I missed direct me to it and ill happily reply.
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or else I will completely unravel your "argument" as I did when you made the assertion that wide spread voting fraud was "common knowledge".
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Uh, no, I know you think you won that “debate” but that’s because you were too dumb to grasp that I was actually having that conversation with other posters, not you. You butted in and I first ignored you, then told you to go read my posts and you came back with a couple and missed the whole jist of it. My first comment was just a throwaway zinger. My last comment was that it couldn’t be proved either way, that some “study” didn’t prove anything, and that I was basically just expressing my opinion. You couldn’t even find those comments because you aren’t very bright. They are still there, I suggest you go read them unless you just enjoy displaying your stupidity.
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Want to keep debating me be my guest.
I don’t recall ever actually debating you. Mocking you in response to your idiotic comments, yes, debating, no.

What part of you’re a waste of time did you not get?
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Want to keep debating me be my guest.
I don't recall ever actually debating you. Mocking you in response to your idiotic comments, yes, debating, no.

What part of you're a waste of time did you not get?
Let me just finish by saying that while there are many I disagree with out of all of them you're posts are the easiest to refute.

That said I'll keep my eyes open for post by you worthy of intelligent debate. Until then carry on
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Let me just finish by saying that while there are many I disagree with out of all of them you're posts are the easiest to refute.

That said I'll keep my eyes open for post by you worthy of intelligent debate. Until then carry on
Lol... You’ve never refuted anything I’ve said.

“Common knowledge” was a joke. I also said “everybody knows”... those were jokes to Dodger who is smart enough to know I was joking and replied in kind. Being the big oafish bull in the china shop, all that went whoosh over your head.

Damn you are dumb. Trust me, we will not be debating, I don’t debate with air heads.
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Let me just finish by saying that while there are many I disagree with out of all of them you're posts are the easiest to refute.

That said I'll keep my eyes open for post by you worthy of intelligent debate. Until then carry on
Lol... You've never refuted anything I've said.

"Common knowledge" was a joke. I also said "everybody knows"... those were jokes to Dodger who is smart enough to know I was joking and replied in kind. Being the big oafish bull in the china shop, all that went whoosh over your head.

Damn you are dumb. Trust me, we will not be debating, I don't debate with air heads.
You only said that after it was clearly pointed out you said what you wanted to be true vs what actually is true.

That is the sign of a true Hannity and trump parrot.

You aren't fooling anyone by saying you said it as "a joke"
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I've got a feeling she's not recovering well. Cancels LA and NY events scheduled for early February.
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I've got a feeling she's not recovering well. Cancels LA and NY events scheduled for early February.
Irrespective of what anyone thinks of her political beliefs or judiciary rulings, let us all hope for the best and wish her a speedy recovery.
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Unlike a large swath of democrats, I'd never wish harm or death on anyone.
She's a smart old gal. I don't see any special conversations causing her to try and get back on the horse if feeling not up to it.
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      01-16-2019, 05:36 PM   #102
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Is there a deal to be made where, say- President Trump and Senate Republicans agree to let Democrats pick Ginsburg's replacement, in exchange for ALL the wall/border security funding (not just the $5b)?

Perhaps something additional or different for letting Dems pick Ginsburg's replacement?
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Is there a deal to be made where, say- President Trump and Senate Republicans agree to let Democrats pick Ginsburg's replacement, in exchange for ALL the wall funding (not just the $5b)?

Perhaps something additional or different for Dems picking Ginsburg's replacement?
LOL - I like this. You know, if she did pass away, I honestly think they'd jump at it in a heartbeat. You should tag the realdonaldtrump on twitter with this idea, hashtag, artofthedeal.

I'm serious.
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Is there a deal to be made where, say- President Trump and Senate Republicans agree to let Democrats pick Ginsburg's replacement, in exchange for ALL the wall/border security funding (not just the $5b)?

Perhaps something additional or different for letting Dems pick Ginsburg's replacement?

Nope. Nancy & Chuck want:

A path to citizenship for 1.8 million undocumented immigrants who came to the country as children

They are willing to offer:

$25 billion for border security
Prevent DACA recipients from sponsoring their parents for legal status
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source of this bold statement? lol.

Google the "Common Sense Plan". A bipartisan effort that was lead by Susan Collins and sponsored by Chuck. It failed 54 to 45 in the Senate.
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LOL - do you make this stuff up?

1) Chuck Schumer vote against that bill. Not sure if you meant Chuck Grassley.
2) Pelosi didn't get to vote for that bill, since she was in the House, not Senate.
3) Nearly every single Democrat voted against that bill.

So confused.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/115-2018/s36

https://govtrackinsider.com/four-fai...s-dd062be36f81
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None of the bills you source in your article align with your original incorrect comment.

Amdt. No. 1958: Created pathway to citizenship for DACA illegal immigrants. Allotted $25B to border "security", but no appropriations for the wall. This was a no-starter, because it didn't have funding for a wall.

Amdt. No. 1955: Created pathway for DACA illegal immigrants. Had provisions tied to the DACA citizenship that "border security should be increased, but not appropriations for funding of increased security and no funding for a wall. This is a no-starter because of this.

Amdt. No. 1959: This created a pathway to citizenship for DACA illegal immigrants and allocated $25B specifically for a border wall. This is the one that should have been approved. 46 out of 49 Democrat (and independents who caucus as Dems) Senators voted against this bill.

Amdt. No. 1948: This was related to sanctuary jurisdictions and the desire to stop them from receiving certain federal grants. This has nothing to do with border security, the wall, or DACA - not sure why you have included this in your article link.


I stand by my original post - what you are saying is a fallacy. Trump has stated many times that he is open to DACA citizenship pathways in exchange for border wall funding. Democrats refuse to have anything to do with a wall, and there are enough Republicans that are against DACA citizenship that substantial Dems would need to be on board to get a filibuster proof majority vote of 60+.

You restated, exactly what I stated and called it a fallacy. Immigration gets folks fired up. My post does not mention a wall, but border security. I know your position and many others consider a wall as being integral to border security. Others believe integrated communications equipment, fixed towers, remote video surveillance systems, tethered aerostats, dismounted radars, and increase agents provide a virtual wall.
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....integrated communications equipment, fixed towers, remote video surveillance systems, tethered aerostats, dismounted radars, and increase agents provide a virtual wall.
A real physical barrier provides a much more effective impediment to people crossing the border. This virtual wall mostly just alerts you to people crossing the border. Considering many people's goal is primarily to get on US soil so they can file a (bogus) asylum claim; a virtual wall is highly ineffective at keeping people who don't care if they get caught from crossing the border.
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Its weird to see some on the right get actually excited about the potential death of one of our SC justices. In any event, I saw an article tonight that showed that she was cancer free and returning to hearings next week.


And the questioning to Coney Barrett doesn't constitute an "attack on Christianity" when she has sworn an oath to a particular subgroup of the religion. Folks would (rightly so) question the same thing of any other religious individual who had pledged an oath to their particular brand of faith.
The discussi9n here is regard8ng her retirement. I’d bet my last dollar she WILL NOT be sitting for any hearings next week. We’ll see. And I remember the liberal scumbags out in full force celebrating Scalia’s death. Nowhere in this thread is there anybody on the right celebrating her potential death.
(This is the old post quoted).

I thought she was going to be at work this week. ????
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No confirmation yet, but there are rumors she has a bad case of pneumonia.
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