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When we use adaptive cruise control or traffic jam assist, is it because we don't know how to drive in highway or in traffic jam??? When we use the 360 degree surround view, is it because we don't know how to turn our head or look at the mirror??? |
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09-16-2021, 07:01 AM | #24 |
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There is a lot of gimmicky technooogy around in general. Companies feeling that there has to be constant changes , constant "improvements" . Lots of form over function
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09-16-2021, 07:59 AM | #26 | |
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https://twitter.com/TaylorOgan/statu...816609285?s=20 Edit: So far ahead, exhibit 2: https://twitter.com/TaylorOgan/statu...579423233?s=20 |
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Lol ok, at least the car can do much more than park itself. I never said it was perfect, its very much still a work in progress, but the progress is profound. Do you see BMW using a supercomputer to learn from daily driving situations? Don't think so...
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Regarding the tech being gimmicky, again I can see that but people just think they need it. If they think they need it, they will look for it in their next car, and if Brand X doesn't offer it but Brand Y does, Brand Y will get their business. That's why nearly every single remotely modern car on the road today has so many aids and assists and helpers. That's just what the market demands, and every single major car company out there is a for-profit, publicly traded company, so they WILL oblige. |
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09-16-2021, 09:05 AM | #29 | |
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Tesla on the other hand can't even manage regular cruise control on the highway/motorway without the risk of random phantom braking and potentially causing a fatal pile up. I know which one I'd rather have and it's not the super computer. |
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09-16-2021, 10:24 AM | #30 | |
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09-16-2021, 10:42 AM | #31 | ||
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I love how everyone rags on Tesla but nobody seems to understand that technology has its growing pains. This is across every industry with any new innovation. You're afraid of phantom braking on a highway? Ok, fair point, don't use Autopilot on any 65MPH public road, at least not yet. I'm also a BMW fan but the fact is, it is a legacy automaker. Another fact is, they just postponed L3 autonomous releases for the near future. Given where the skilled engineers are going and what they want to work on, the writing is on the wall. |
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Also, no one has L3 available. They're all working on it... investing heavily in hardware and developers to build their respective systems (I work with a couple of them). The easy part is keeping speed with the vehicle in front... staying in the lane... etc...most brands do that very well. The hard part is all the unknown variables... road debris, animal, pedestrian, random thing falling out of the truck in front.... and that's not even the local driving... intersections, 4-way stop, yielding to other traffic, and a slew of other things that I haven't written... It's gonna take a _long_ time before it's anywhere near "full" autonomy vs assisted driving.... no matter what Elon says.... which is usually BS.
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What's going on here as this is of course way over and above self parking.
Is this a feature that it will go and find a space itself? Then the summon works (much better than Telslas it seems if true)? Then the car wash (ignition the scandal of an automatic wash ) … what was going on there, it will drive to a point and wait and then you summon again? Lots of questions but if that was real time great tech.
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I would love to see a demo in an underground garage 2 floors below 0 where there is no cellular reception…
For sure this will fail. So in reality you would drop off your car at the valet drop off point only to discover later that all the cars are standing behind each other on the downhill part between -1 and -2 because that's where cellular reception failed… |
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And before 5G is installed in every underground parking down to level -4, we'll be 10 years in the future at least. |
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Can't wait till this tech matures. I hate spending time looking for a parking spot and going to the car wash. Yes I can park and wash my own car but why do it if the car has the ability to drop me off at the front door, park and wash itself then pick me up?
Going to be a bunch of problems to solve before we get there but I'm sure we will eventually. Can't wait!
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Agree with you 100%. We are no where near "FULL" autonomy. My estimation is 2035. I am talking about self drive capability that require NO human intervention at all where you can literally sleep in your car. One must also remember that our entire highways, freeways, and roads would have to be converted gradually to "smart" roads to accommodate this leap. I'll be surprised if we achieve this before the mid 2030s. |
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Classic "form before function"
That should not have progressed any further than some idiots idea! I would love to speak with who came up with and get rational…. |
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