[Trooper9009]

Alrite ...so I am planning to get a motorcycle and was hoping to get some advice from you guys....

This will be my first bike and things that matter are the looks and the price ...

I was looking at the following vehicles and was wondering if any of you guys own any of these and would like to share how you feel about it..

Hyosung GT250R
Suzuki GSX650F
Kawasaki Ninja 250R
Suzuki SV650F

Was hoping to start with a250cc ,but not sure if I that will be fun...

[coh4777]

How much do you weigh? In general a lower cc bike is the safe way to go, but if you are too heavy or tall, a 250 might not be the right choice...

[ragingclue]

The SV650 should be alright as long as you're not a dumbass. I'd normally recommend the Ninja 250 to people starting out, but a lot of people outgrow that really really quickly. That being said, the 250 is the safest bet, but it's not guaranteed you'll kill yourself if you start with something a bit faster than that. Heck, I knew a couple people who started out on 600's who outgrew them pretty quickly. Some people can do it, some can't. It's all about how you handle yourself and the situation.

[chungdae]

I learned on a 600 and then moved up to a 1000. It depends on the person truthfully and how much self control they have.

[Blake]

a lot of good info in this old thread: http://m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=192538

[Trooper9009]

I was driving motorcycles from the place where I came from for more than 4 years ...its been a while though ...my freind has a r6 and it looked a little heavy to me ..I am 5.7' and weight about 140lb ...so kinda looking at a better looking as well as a lighter bike ....I can buy a new 250cc but will have to search for used 600cc bike and not sure how long would it take...

[shuarma]

buying a 250 would be kind of a waste. i would buy a used 600, maybe an r6 or a cbr600, and learn on that.

[Hawkeye]

^^ You are an idiot if you honestly think that... either that or you have never ridden a motorcycle before.

A 250 is a great learners bike. Also if you don't want to have to trade up in 6 months to a year then you could start on the SV650 as mentioned before or even a 650R. Those bikes are not quite as high strung.

Whatever you do it is smart not to start on a SS bike like some idiots would tell you.

A much better place to read up on those motorcycles would be motorcycleforum.com. I know multiple people on there that ride 250s even after riding for a while because of the MPG and the manuverability. Not everyone needs loads of power. They have a section just for people beginning and looking for bikes.

[BillLee]

been thinking about getting a motorcycle too, but i think i'm too fucking short to ride one. i'm 5'5" btw.

[SchnellM3]

Just go for the 1000 rite away that's what I did and I had no riding experience at all. And I did/ am doing fine. I rode my friends 600 a week ago and it felt like it was anemic barely any power at all.

[2000gsr]

Originally Posted by SchnellM3

Just go for the 1000 rite away that's what I did and I had no riding experience at all. And I did/ am doing fine. I rode my friends 600 a week ago and it felt like it was anemic barely any power at all.

+1

You WILL get bored of any 250cc in a week and sv650's look gay. I started on a 600ss, now looking back i should have just started on a 1000. Just don't do anything extra stupid.

[Razzy]

Originally Posted by Blake

a lot of good info in this old thread: http://m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=192538

Thanks Blake.

Originally Posted by shuarma

buying a 250 would be kind of a waste. i would buy a used 600, maybe an r6 or a cbr600, and learn on that.

An SS bike, is a thorough bred race bike. These bikes are not meant for begginers at all. Mabye get to know your shit before spewing out crap.

Originally Posted by SchnellM3

Just go for the 1000 rite away that's what I did and I had no riding experience at all. And I did/ am doing fine. I rode my friends 600 a week ago and it felt like it was anemic barely any power at all.

Oh yea? I also gaurentee you I can out pace and out corner you on any fucking bike. Starting on a SS or especially a litre bike will make any rider pisss scared of the bike itself. You might say, this wasn't the case for you, but I gaurentee you, that the amount you can learn on a Ninja 250R, you will not be able to do so confidently on anything like a SS or litre bike.

Originally Posted by 2000gsr

+1

You WILL get bored of any 250cc in a week and sv650's look gay. I started on a 600ss, now looking back i should have just started on a 1000. Just don't do anything extra stupid.

Another example of someone who doesn't know there own mistakes. Motorcycle riding is not just about self control, it is about experience aswell. A new rider who is not too smooth on the throttle on a Ninja 250R may be able to get away with it. On a SS or litre bike, that error is multiplied ten fold. If the rider does not loop it, he might bring it down into a tank slapper and bye bye.

Don't listen to these illiterate people spewing out garbage. As Blake posted, I made that thread and I too was in the same boat as you a while ago. I started on a Ninja 250R thanks to other users and after doing research, and I can say that was the best decision I made. Take the motorcycle course, get helmet, jacket, boots, and mabey riding pants and you are off to a good start. A Ninja 250R will greatly increase your skill level much more quickly than any other bike, and you will learn to use the bike to its potential rather than these fucking squids that only look at the CC and stop from one starbucks to another.

Do yourself a favour and DO NOT get a 600cc SS(supersport) like the CBR600, GSXR600, Yamaha R6, or the Kawasaki Ninja ZX6r. These are overkill, and litre bikes are on another planet.

here is a website I frequent. http://www.sportbikes.net/forums/. Go into the New rider section and read ALL the stickies. Trust me on this one. I owe a great deal to one of the posters here because I know what a mistake I would have made by getting a SS to start on. Do not start on a SS or litre bike, you want this to be your first bike and not your last.

[JayKay335i]

I just sat on my ball. Ow.

[lambtron]

Best beginner bike = Turbo GSXR1300

[Dan in PA]

Originally Posted by lambtron

Best beginner bike = Turbo GSXR1300

I learned on one of those. Got bored of it fast :yawn:

[335R1]

There is NO SUCH THING as outgrowing a 600cc also there is absolutely NOTHING WRONG with starting out on 600cc regardless of what the guys up above have said. People tend to outgrow the 250cc extremely fast, although it's a great beginner's bike because it's power band is much more for giving on first time riders. I started out on an 04 R6. Not the best bike to start off as the R6 is extremely responsive, light, quick and track ready bike out of the box compared to the other 600cc. I was lucky enough to have a amateur racing buddy watch out for me during the first couple of seasons, so I learned a lot from him. With him and time on an actual race track for track days has made me much more aware and respectul of the bike no matter what size it is. Regardless, don't be scared to start off with 600cc. I can guarantee you that 9.5/10 guys you see on the streets riding 600 have't even tapped the full potential of that bike or even know how to ride it properly. I've seen guys riding 600c on the twisties and tracks shit all over guys with 1000cc bikes. A liter bike doesn't mean shit unless you're a squid who likes straight aways. 3 seasons after owning my R6, I reworked the suspension. Had the forks revalved, double adjustable penske shocks, gpr steering dampner, new tires, bike balanced to my weight and it was NIGHT AND DAY. A complete different bike. The dyanmics of it truly made me feel like I was the bike. Knee dragging was effortless and natural.

Then I did something. My buddy has 2 track bikes (30k invested on 01 R6 and 06 R1) and his Ducatti 1098 for the street. I rode his tracked set up 06 R1 and it was more butter than my R6. I was so in love, that I traded up my R6 for a fresh still in the box R1two weeks later without minding the fact that his suspension was worked up. Quite honestly, I miss 600cc a lot. I knee drag and the best machine for that was a 600cc bike. All that horsepower and torque of the liter bike is unnecessary for me. My other friend just picked up a brand new Triumph 675 and I am so envious. Now I have to start all over again with the suspension on my R1.

Bottom line, consider how long you plan to keep your first bike. Dont' be afraid to start off on a 600cc. Respect, learn, familiarize and know the bike. When you really learn how to ride it, you won't need to consider anything else.

[JCtx]

Originally Posted by 335R1

there is absolutely NOTHING WRONG with starting out on 600cc regardless of what the guys up above have said.

I'm on that camp too. Those bikes are pussycats below 6K rpm, so no need to buy a crappy bike and sell it in a few weeks; that's crazy IMO. Heck, I started on a 750 and quickly moved to a liter bike (CBR1000F). If you don't have 'self control' to stay below those rpm until you learn how to ride better, you have no business riding a motorcycle.

Reason for a larger motor are more relaxed highway cruising, more amenities (like hydraulic clutch, shaft drive, etc), better range, better comfort, etc. A liter crotch rocket is absolutely unnecessary IMO, although most have 'detuned' maps to reduce power. Unless you want to race, a 600 sport bike is all you'll ever need. And it's WAY cheaper to insure (and buy) as well. Good luck.

[radix]

[Seabiscuit]

Ducatti Monster 696!

[Digital.James]

oh my how much crap us posted in this thread...

how fast people forget. most supersport bikes these days are faster than liter bikes were just five years ago. most supersport bikes have power curves that are so high, its almost impossible for a new rider to learn the basics, especially applying and maintaining throttle while cornering.

i would take a hard look at a vtwin bike like a monster or sv650. theyve got much easier to manage powerbands which make the most difference in learning how to ride imo.

[FrankoQ]

Originally Posted by chungdae

I learned on a 600 and then moved up to a 1000. It depends on the person truthfully and how much self control they have.

I also started on a 600 and then moved to a 750

[FrankoQ]

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